stocky Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 46 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: Roma need to be banned from europe I don't know, they had an interesting banner last night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 hour ago, Fairbairn said: I know this won't be of interest to most people outside of OF fans on here but was reading about the likelihood of Scotland being overtaken buy Czech Republic and the ramifications of CL qualifying. Czech's have 3 teams left in Europe this season while we obviously only have Rangers. 2 of the 3 Czech teams will likely go out so it comes down to Viktoria Plzen vs Rangers and if VP perform better the Czech's will overtake us in the rankings. If that does happen, and Celtic win the league in 24/25 then they would need a qualifying round to reach the new format CL. However, if Rangers win the league that season they would most likely qualify due to a new rule which favours club coefficient (Rangers are currently the highest ranked team outside of the top 7 countries). So in perverse turn of events it's actually favourable for Celtic in the longer term for Rangers to stay in Europe as long as possible this season! Is that not the case every season? Whether it's Rangers or Celtic. In general, it should always be beneficial for either, or both, to do as well as possible, even if they can't bring themselves to admit it. This might be a slightly more specific reason this year. I'm sure Ramy will be secretly cheering you on. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 21 minutes ago, Orraloon said: Is that not the case every season? Whether it's Rangers or Celtic. In general, it should always be beneficial for either, or both, to do as well as possible, even if they can't bring themselves to admit it. This might be a slightly more specific reason this year. I'm sure Ramy will be secretly cheering you on. 🤣 No, the way it's been set up for the last few years is that if the team that wins the CL also qualifies through their own league then the extra spot goes to the Champions of the 11th ranked country. We're about to drop to 11th so under the current format that would be Rangers, Celtic or whoever wins the league in Scotland. However they're changing that criteria so that rather than go to the champion of the 11th ranked country, the spot will go to the Champion of any country ranked from 11 down who has the highest individual club coefficient. Rangers are currently 10 points ahead of their nearest challengers (Dinamo Zagreb and a couple of others) so it's highly unlikely that gap will be closed. So if Rangers win the league, even if Scotland are 11th then we'd qualify automatically to the group stages. However Celtic are much further down the club coefficient rankings so if they won the league then there would be other teams ahead of them for that last spot. However, all of that is meaningless in the unlikely event that the team that wins the CL doesn't also qualify through their league (happened twice in the last 20 years with Chelsea in 2014 and Liverpool in 2005). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 hours ago, vanderark14 said: Roma need to be banned from europe Fan behaviour and racism seems to be a huge (non) problem on the continent, there’s a ridiculous amount of games played every weekend with no away fans present. UEFA doesnt seem in the slightest bit interested in banning teams unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 4 minutes ago, dan cake said: Fan behaviour and racism seems to be a huge (non) problem on the continent, there’s a ridiculous amount of games played every weekend with no away fans present. UEFA doesnt seem in the slightest bit interested in banning teams unfortunately Probably not worth the court battle as clubs will claim no responsibility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Benfica have raked in 1bn euro this century with player sales. Thats pretty impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 27 minutes ago, Fairbairn said: No, the way it's been set up for the last few years is that if the team that wins the CL also qualifies through their own league then the extra spot goes to the Champions of the 11th ranked country. We're about to drop to 11th so under the current format that would be Rangers, Celtic or whoever wins the league in Scotland. However they're changing that criteria so that rather than go to the champion of the 11th ranked country, the spot will go to the Champion of any country ranked from 11 down who has the highest individual club coefficient. Rangers are currently 10 points ahead of their nearest challengers (Dinamo Zagreb and a couple of others) so it's highly unlikely that gap will be closed. So if Rangers win the league, even if Scotland are 11th then we'd qualify automatically to the group stages. However Celtic are much further down the club coefficient rankings so if they won the league then there would be other teams ahead of them for that last spot. However, all of that is meaningless in the unlikely event that the team that wins the CL doesn't also qualify through their league (happened twice in the last 20 years with Chelsea in 2014 and Liverpool in 2005). Sorry, I still not getting it. In the current system, has it not always been beneficial for both teams to do as well as possible in order to get that 11th position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 2 hours ago, stocky said: I don't know, they had an interesting banner last night Given it was Brighton they were playing there could be different connotations... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 2 hours ago, stocky said: I don't know, they had an interesting banner last night 😆 🤣 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 9 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Given it was Brighton they were playing there could be different connotations... I was going to comment but didn’t want to face the wrath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 (edited) 2 hours ago, stocky said: I don't know, they had an interesting banner last night 🤣 Edited March 8 by Orraloon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 13 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Given it was Brighton they were playing there could be different connotations... Looks fairly unambiguous to me. 🤣 What other connotations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 If Rangers get to the CL they will end up in a similar position to Celtic. They'll get battered in the CL and end up falling down the rankings. Celtic could benefit from a few good runs in the EL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 hour ago, Orraloon said: Sorry, I still not getting it. In the current system, has it not always been beneficial for both teams to do as well as possible in order to get that 11th position? I'm talking about qualifying automatically for the group stages. As it stands currently Scotland are the 10th ranked team so whoever wins the league goes straight in to the group stages. If and when we drop to 11th place we technically lose that automatic group stage spot (as only the top 10 in the country rankings get it) however if Rangers win the league they would get the last group stage spot due to the new rule coming in based on club coefficient (assuming the CL winners also qualify through their group). If Celtic were to win the league they'd need to play a qualifying round to get to the group stages due to their lower club position. That's why it's in Celtic's interests for Rangers to go further in Europe so we can cling on to that 10th spot and the guaranteed group stage entry (and Celtic would still then need to win the league of course) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 16 minutes ago, Orraloon said: Looks fairly unambiguous to me. 🤣 What other connotations? Also had to surpress a snigger when reading about one of their fans getting stabbed in the buttocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFH64 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 3 hours ago, stocky said: I don't know, they had an interesting banner last night That referring to some of the Brighton supporters 😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ramy 1314 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Sadly reading a few sites and reporting a 25 year old Rangers fan died in Lisbon last night. I pray to God this is not true.. 🙏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auchinyell Sox Change Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 7 hours ago, Orraloon said: Looks fairly unambiguous to me. 🤣 What other connotations? brighton ; the pink pound , light on ones loafers , dancing queen , friends of dorothy etc etc i assume Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 38 minutes ago, Big Ramy 1314 said: Sadly reading a few sites and reporting a 25 year old Rangers fan died in Lisbon last night. I pray to God this is not true.. 🙏 yes, sadly, it looks to be widely reported now. Far too young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 They have still not released the circumstances of the poor guy's death There was trouble before the game but i assume if it was down to violence/murder they would have said by now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 3 hours ago, Auchinyell Sox Change said: brighton ; the pink pound , light on ones loafers , dancing queen , friends of dorothy etc etc i assume Nah, not buying that one. There must be plenty of that in Rome as well. It means exactly what the banner says, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 17 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: They have still not released the circumstances of the poor guy's death There was trouble before the game but i assume if it was down to violence/murder they would have said by now They should give the reason, stops speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFH64 Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 3 minutes ago, Kirk said: They should give the reason, stops speculation. He apparently fell off a chair, nae sure why or if he banged his head, R.I.P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 On 3/8/2024 at 9:27 AM, stocky said: I don't know, they had an interesting banner last night Maybe Michael Fagan has been talking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 The day before the game 😳 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68521103 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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