Bzzzz Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/news/hampden-park-included-in-uk-ireland-preliminary-bid-dossier-to-host-uefa-euro-2028/?rid=14258 Got to say I've no enthusiasm for this tournament bid whatsoever as it's England + a few other token venues and is sailing FAR to close to being "british" for my liking, but it COULD be the lever to get the funding we so desperately need to upgrade Hampden Park and bring her into the 21st century! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 So based on that list, upon a successful bid, looks like it will most likely be cut down to, Pot 1 - Wembley and Spurs Pot 2 - Hampden and St James' Pot 3 - Everton and Old Trafford Pot 4 - Aviva and New Belfast Stadium Pot 5 - Cardiff (Millennium) and Villa Park Probably see Cardiff get the opening ceremony, Hampden and Aviva getting a semi-final each, and final at Wembley. Far from ideal, but if it gets anything like the bounce in Glasgow during the last Euro's, all for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 No thanks We would be part of a massive 'footballs coming home' bash Why couldn't we do this with Wales and all of Ireland ourselves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottincarlisle Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Surely 5 host nations wouldn't have automatic qualification? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, scottincarlisle said: Surely 5 host nations wouldn't have automatic qualification? UEFA have said only a maximum of two can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Get this idea to feck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottincarlisle Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, wanderer said: UEFA have said only a maximum of two can So like the last Euros, you could be a host & not be at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 20 minutes ago, wanderer said: UEFA have said only a maximum of two can In that case we should all be in a five team qualifying group with the top two qualifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 18 minutes ago, ErsatzThistle said: Get this idea to feck. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottincarlisle Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 56 minutes ago, Orraloon said: In that case we should all be in a five team qualifying group with the top two qualifying. So if the top 2 ranked sides qualify automatically surely the other 3 could still qualify through the groups? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, scottincarlisle said: So if the top 2 ranked sides qualify automatically surely the other 3 could still qualify through the groups? No, that would be our qualifying group. All five of us in the same group. They might still have a chance through the playoffs though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 The only positive with this plan seems to be the potential redevelopment of Hampden, otherwise it’s pointless us being involved. It’s merely England plus a token stadium from each of the Celtic nations; I'd rather England just hosted it alone, it’s not like there’s any logistical reason they couldn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, Clyde1998 said: The only positive with this plan seems to be the potential redevelopment of Hampden, otherwise it’s pointless us being involved. It’s merely England plus a token stadium from each of the Celtic nations; I'd rather England just hosted it alone, it’s not like there’s any logistical reason they couldn’t. I agree, and if we did manage to qualify it would be more like a proper tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 2 hours ago, vanderark14 said: No thanks We would be part of a massive 'footballs coming home' bash Why couldn't we do this with Wales and all of Ireland ourselves? It's a dreadful idea. I think the only other bidder is Turkey, who have some fantastic stadiums but a less than fantastic human rights record. Then again, the powers that be cared not a jot about Qatar's human rights record, so that possibly won't be an issue. I guess the main thing preventing us and the Irelands hosting it is the lack of suitable venues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Orraloon said: No, that would be our qualifying group. All five of us in the same group. They might still have a chance through the playoffs though? Surely that would make it more difficult for Scotland to qualify? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVIDB46 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Can’t see it “coming home” so quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, DAVIDB46 said: Can’t see it “coming home” so quickly Especially given the bother at last year's final. This bid was just a sop after Boris pulled out of the World Cup 2030. I read Hampden will get £14m to put towards refurbishments. At the current rate of inflation that will be enough to do up the bogs... https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/glasgow-hampden-park-could-14-25437466 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich NATA Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 England don't need the Irish, Scottish or Welsh to help them host the Euros, so why go down this route? Politics? British brainwashing wankfest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 42 minutes ago, Rich NATA said: British brainwashing wankfest? Can't see that going down well in Dublin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrie21 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Scrunch this idea up, squeeze it into a tightly wound ball and launch it into the nearest bin. And no, not a recycling bin, the trash can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 From what I saw on the telly, England hosted the last Euro's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 3 hours ago, scotlad said: It's a dreadful idea. I think the only other bidder is Turkey, who have some fantastic stadiums but a less than fantastic human rights record. Then again, the powers that be cared not a jot about Qatar's human rights record, so that possibly won't be an issue. I guess the main thing preventing us and the Irelands hosting it is the lack of suitable venues. I recall the Euro 2008 bid failed (partially) because we had too many stadia (three) in Glasgow, whereas all our competitors had one stadium per city. The minimum stadium capacity requirements are: 1 stadium with 60,000 seats 1 stadium (preferably 2) with 50,000 seats 4 stadiums with 40,000 seats 3 stadiums with 30,000 seats If you said a three-way Celtic nations bid (us, Ireland and Wales), you got the following existing stadia which fit the criteria: Millennium Stadium, Cardiff - 74,500 Croke Park, Dublin - 69,500 (seated) Murrayfield, Edinburgh - 67,000 Parkhead, Glasgow - 60,000 Hampden, Glasgow - 52,000 Aviva Stadium, Dublin - 52,000 Ibrox, Glasgow - 51,000 Cardiff City, Cardiff - 33,000 Minimum of one additional stadium needed (possibly new or expanded grounds in Aberdeen, Dundee, Swansea and/or GAA stadia) Of the existing stadia, there are arguably too many in Glasgow (especially), Dublin and Cardiff. Depending on how many stadia you want to have in total - the French ended up with ten in 2016, with twelve in their bid - you could alleviate the issue by certain stadiums being used for specific stages (eg. use the Cardiff City Stadium for the group stages and use the Millennium for the knockouts). I believe the main concern is about policing, transport infrastructure and hotels. Ireland has a lot of GAA grounds, which are presently largely terracing. These could be upgraded to all-seater, similar to the proposed Casement Park redevelopment in Belfast. Aberdeen are looking for a new stadium - so that would be a good fit. The London Olympic Stadium had a temporary additional tier for the Olympics, which was removed once the games finished; having ~30,000 for the Euros, with ~20,000 as the permanent capacity, is an option for an Aberdeen stadium. Dundee could have a similar plan; Swansea were looking at expanding their stadium at one point. If the SFA had a bit of imagination, it would be possible to have Euro finals matches in Scotland without being tacked on to an English bid. How many games are we going to end up hosting anyway - four, five? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 11 hours ago, ceudmilefailte said: From what I saw on the telly, England hosted the last Euro's. Right enough. That team only travelled once. And it was to humiliate a sub par Ukraine team in Rome. They’ll never get a better chance to win a tournament. And they still couldn’t beat us! J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judith Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 I think the only advantage to this happening (other than it being a home tournament if we qualify) would be the opportunity to finally renovate Hampden to a higher standard. I think Glasgow City Council have already said they would earmark money for it, with some Scotgov money and whatever the SFA could raise, we might finally get a decent north stand and a better view from behind the goals! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Judith said: I think the only advantage to this happening (other than it being a home tournament if we qualify) would be the opportunity to finally renovate Hampden to a higher standard. I think Glasgow City Council have already said they would earmark money for it, with some Scotgov money and whatever the SFA could raise, we might finally get a decent north stand and a better view from behind the goals! £14m GCC have earmarked.... but that will be for minor touch up's. I doubt the SFA will get the money out of a successful bid to be in a position to redevelop the East and West stands (you are probably talking £80-100m for that alone) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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