Diamond Scot Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 2 hours ago, wanderer said: Problem is, with the exception of Newton (which would give you links to Larkhall and Lanark lines) the stations around Hampden are on a loop that do not really connect with anywhere. You are either on the Cathcart Circle back to Central, or you go all the way to Neilston... there is no real hub points that you can do that (to connect Hampden to Ayrshire, you would need to find a way to integrate Crossmyloof in to the system, which would be both expensive and tricky to do). Probably one of the best hopes for the future is the Clyde Metro Project getting passed, as there is plans for it to travel through the southside (how close to Hampden I am not sure, but there is certainly potential for a hub point at Aikenhead Rd. Yeah, im no expert in the train lines but I was just offering some examples. Even having announcements / info on tickets that east end and south stand fans should go to kings park station. North and west to whatever ones right beside. Name escapes me. There should be a level of planning to try and make a difficult situation better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Diamond Scot said: Stadium wise, the Stuggart redevelopment is the way forward but think it cost about 50 to 70 million and capacity stayed the same so only real benefit is fan experience which SFA likely wont care about. Could be a bit more than that according to this article from 2019, and given the inflation in construction costs since Covid you could be looking at £100m plus. As great as it would be to have a refurb like that, I think I'd rather that amount of cash was spent on grassroots football facilities, youth development etc. https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/16842777.stuttgart-style-hampden-refurb-cost-90m-warns-architect-behind-project/ Edited April 17, 2023 by Toepoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 The only way I see any boost in capacity will be a long sustaimed run of succrssful qualifying campaigns bringing countless sell-outs. The SFA may then start contemplating how much potential revenue they are missing out on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judith Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 8 hours ago, ceudmilefailte said: You were doing great until the last statement. It was added to counteract the usual comments about how we are going to pay for it, why should a government pay for an upgrade to a national stadium instead of hospitals, teachers et etc. The Scottish Government cant borrow money for these things and Westminster would have no interest in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 17 minutes ago, Judith said: It was added to counteract the usual comments about how we are going to pay for it, why should a government pay for an upgrade to a national stadium instead of hospitals, teachers et etc. The Scottish Government cant borrow money for these things and Westminster would have no interest in it. Apologies, I thought you were implying that as an independent country we would be able to fund a new stadium as well as provide the services you mention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share Posted April 18, 2023 19 hours ago, Judith said: Id also add, that anyone thinking about moving the national stadium away from Hampden, really beed to get themselves to the museum. Hampdens place in international football history is something that should be cherished, and the main reason we should never move away from the current site. It needs to be recognised as a place of worldwide sporting significance and invested in accordingly. An independent country would ve able to raise the revenues as well as look after their sick and elderly. Echo that, amongst all the other arguments, do people seriously suggest that we walk away from 150 years of history because they're fkin lazy!? Hampden (and Glasgow) IS the home of International fitba, I love the place and all that it means and stands for, to leave the place would be criminal and beyond all recognisable ignorance. As fowk have already said there were WAY bigger crowds moving in and out of Hampden in the 80s which is in fairness fairly recently and the transport infrastructure hasn't changed that much has it? it's SO easy to moan as we often do rather than actually look at the root of the issue and what the best way is to address it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyshaker Posted April 18, 2023 Share Posted April 18, 2023 Man City putting some more seats in to put capacity over 60k and a few other things. https://www.mancity.com/news/club/etihad-stadium-north-stand-planning-application-cgi-interpretation-63817343 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Turkey have withdrawn their Euro 2028 bid in place of a Euro 2032 bid in a joint hosting with Italy offer. Probably been agreed in private that Turkey would get Euro 2032 if they withdraw their Euro 2028 bid in favor of the Uk & Ireland bid getting that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 26 minutes ago, wanderer said: Turkey have withdrawn their Euro 2028 bid in place of a Euro 2032 bid in a joint hosting with Italy offer. Probably been agreed in private that Turkey would get Euro 2032 if they withdraw their Euro 2028 bid in favor of the Uk & Ireland bid getting that one. It's gonna be a right shitter if we have to qualify for a tournament we're co-hosting 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 12 minutes ago, todd said: It's gonna be a right shitter if we have to qualify for a tournament we're co-hosting 🤔 While not cast in stone, there has been murmurs that its agreed in principal that 2 of the 5 hosts would qualify automatically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Gutted about this Footballs coming home with some token celts in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 hour ago, wanderer said: While not cast in stone, there has been murmurs that its agreed in principal that 2 of the 5 hosts would qualify automatically. How on earth would that work? 3 majorly peed off FA’s I would imagine. Ridiculous idea for 5 countries to be hosts in any case, surely just let England have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 48 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: Gutted about this Footballs coming home with some token celts in there Same. I'd have more respect if England just agreed to host it themselves. I mean, it'll be turned into an English tournament anyway, the same way Euro 2020 was, so they might as well just be honest about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, JECK said: How on earth would that work? 3 majorly peed off FA’s I would imagine. Ridiculous idea for 5 countries to be hosts in any case, surely just let England have it. Agreed - why the fuck does it have to be held jointly ? Is this a new UEFA policy ? And they can fuck off with the "UK" shite too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 14 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Agreed - why the fuck does it have to be held jointly ? Is this a new UEFA policy ? And they can fuck off with the "UK" shite too The UK doesn't even exist in a football context. It's like calling it Scandinavia 2028. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, scotlad said: The UK doesn't even exist in a football context. It's like calling it Scandinavia 2028. exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 51 minutes ago, JECK said: How on earth would that work? 3 majorly peed off FA’s I would imagine. Ridiculous idea for 5 countries to be hosts in any case, surely just let England have it. As said, its only been murmurs in media, but nobody has really ran with the story. When its been double hosts, you have always had both hosts qualify automatically (Belgium & Netherlands, Poland & Ukraine, Austria & Switzerland etc....) and it looks like all 3 WC hosts for USA-Mexico-Canada will automatically qualify (though to be fair, if you only took USA and Mexico, with those heavy weights not in the qualifiers, Canada would probably qualify under their own steam). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, wanderer said: As said, its only been murmurs in media, but nobody has really ran with the story. When its been double hosts, you have always had both hosts qualify automatically (Belgium & Netherlands, Poland & Ukraine, Austria & Switzerland etc....) and it looks like all 3 WC hosts for USA-Mexico-Canada will automatically qualify (though to be fair, if you only took USA and Mexico, with those heavy weights not in the qualifiers, Canada would probably qualify under their own steam). Those serial qualifiers Canada you mean? 😉But I see your point Edited July 28, 2023 by todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 14 minutes ago, todd said: Those serial qualifiers Canada you mean? 😉But I see your point They have only qualified for one World Cup since 1986.................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, wanderer said: They have only qualified for one World Cup since 1986.................. That was my point. Just didn't know which one was the sarcasm emoji Edited July 28, 2023 by todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesiScotsman Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, wanderer said: While not cast in stone, there has been murmurs that its agreed in principal that 2 of the 5 hosts would qualify automatically. England are the obvious one that will be given automatic qualification. How will the other host nation for automatic qualification be determined by? Highest ranking? Edited July 28, 2023 by DesiScotsman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 44 minutes ago, DesiScotsman said: England are the obvious one that will be given automatic qualification. How will the other host nation for automatic qualification be determined by? Highest ranking? If the Tournament is "The UK and Ireland" then Ireland will definitely be one of the automatic qualifiers This is why it falls down - unless Scotland, England, Wales & NI draw lots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scots_Wha_Hae Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 48 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: If the Tournament is "The UK and Ireland" then Ireland will definitely be one of the automatic qualifiers This is why it falls down - unless Scotland, England, Wales & NI draw lots Why? It is a five host nation tournament, calling it the UK and Ireland doesn't mean it's a two host tournament. That would be bizarre logic. Presumably if they allow two then it'll be the two highest ranked in Uefa's rankings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 As a whole, Stadiums in Italy need major work, they have been left behind and some in a bit of a state. The Juventus Stadium is one of the rare exceptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Scots_Wha_Hae said: Why? It is a five host nation tournament, calling it the UK and Ireland doesn't mean it's a two host tournament. That would be bizarre logic. Presumably if they allow two then it'll be the two highest ranked in Uefa's rankings. As bizarre as games being played at Hampden, Millenium stadium & Windsor Park when neither Scotland, Wales or NI have qualified ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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