daviebee Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, Orraloon said: I don't know where this "England were the better team" stuff is coming from. France were clearly the better team and had that game under control. France weren't at their best with their final ball often just not quite spot on. I'm happy for the English to think they were the better team, and hard done by, because that means they won't learn from their short comings. They are just not good enough at this level. If Morocco don't offer any more than England did, then France will be very happy. If France lift this World Cup with 5 or 6 of their best players missing then nobody else should bother turning up for the next couple. They looked to me like they could step it up against the English and had the better clear cut chances. England probably wasted their best opportunity, putting out a full-strength side against a weakened top-level one and they still couldn't do the business despite getting a couple of penalties. The delusion will continue though even if it has absolutely no basis in facts. They've already got the next Euros won apparently. 🙄 Reality is, meet a big side and out they go. When a cheating johnny foreigner can be identified as a scapegoat, the ref in this instance, it does make it even funnier. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 43 minutes ago, daviebee said: If France lift this World Cup with 5 or 6 of their best players missing then nobody else should bother turning up for the next couple. They looked to me like they could step it up against the English and had the better clear cut chances. England probably wasted their best opportunity, putting out a full-strength side against a weakened top-level one and they still couldn't do the business despite getting a couple of penalties. The delusion will continue though even if it has absolutely no basis in facts. They've already got the next Euros won apparently. 🙄 Reality is, meet a big side and out they go. When a cheating johnny foreigner can be identified as a scapegoat, the ref in this instance, it does make it even funnier. 🤣 😂 I'm just glad we are laughing at them before the semi finals. Even shit teams sometimes get lucky. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daviebee Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 hour ago, mcguffin said: This is a good analysis of Morocco. I think France will have their work cutout. That said, with Griezmann and Giroud (with Mbappe playing the same scary decoy role as in the Quater-Final), they might be the only team so far who might unlock the amazing Moroccan defence? They could easily do a Greece 2004. It'd be some story if they do. It'd be interesting to see how they'd react to going behind though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 On 12/11/2022 at 3:39 PM, Third Lanark said: Yes, let's not get too smug. They are a young improving team with great strength in depth. The law of averages says they will win a major tournament soon. Just hope they get a tougher draw next tournament as they have been helped by kind draws. Someone pointed out to me that their next qualifying group is probably their hardest for a long while - possibly since Euro 2008 when they were knocked out by Croatia and Russia. They've got Italy, Ukraine and North Macedonia (plus Malta) - Ukraine went unbeaten in their World Cup qualifying group, getting two draws against the French and North Macedonia beat Germany and Italy away in the last qualifiers. They should still qualify, but that group could lead to a lower seeding for Euro 2024 (as the final tournament seeding is directly based off of your qualifying performance now) and a tougher group as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 10 hours ago, Fairbairn said: Normally the English are delusional going in to a tournament and the scathing when they inevitably get knocked out. You'd think they'd narrowly lost in the final with all the "really close to winning it" guff we've heard since Saturday. No, you got knocked out in the quarter finals by the first decent team you faced and only managed to beat teams you absolutely should have beaten (and I guess we're just glossing over the USA draw now!). Basically every tournament since I've been alive has seen England blame their exit on something other than their own performances or ability: media pressure; 'awful weather so kids don't want to play football'; weather being too hot/humid; 'kids want to play video games'; obesity; refereeing decisions; burnout; injuries; 'lottery' of penalties; player x did something which got player y sent off. All these excuses fail to recognise basically every team at the World Cup has some combination of these factors. Typically, the side which wins the tournament is one of the best sides in it. The English media cannot accept the reason England haven't won anything in the past 50 years: simply not being good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daviebee Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 This appears to be genuine as far as I can see - https://www.givemesport.com/88094063-england-world-cup-exit-company-facing-major-loss-after-buying-winners-t-shirts?fbclid=IwAR0ATPBPP693qaseOO16hthCSKfKMCCGUJZ5fOASYjSUV-yo321S78XFI8s Can you imagine anyone being this fkin stupid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, daviebee said: This appears to be genuine as far as I can see - https://www.givemesport.com/88094063-england-world-cup-exit-company-facing-major-loss-after-buying-winners-t-shirts?fbclid=IwAR0ATPBPP693qaseOO16hthCSKfKMCCGUJZ5fOASYjSUV-yo321S78XFI8s Can you imagine anyone being this fkin stupid? Normal practice for the 2 teams in the final, bit premature here though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daviebee Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Kirk said: Normal practice for the 2 teams in the final, bit premature here though Aye, but ordering 18,000??? I really hope it's a spoof as it's genuinely scary to think that there are folk like that walking among us. Maybe somebody will mass produce Twelfth of Never labels to stitch over them. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) Posted earlier in this thread regarding trouble, no English or Welsh fans detained in Qatar but 531 arrests in this country for football related incidents since the World Cup began Edited December 13, 2022 by dan cake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 For once, we have got to the semi finals and I don't really mind who wins it. If Morocco win it, that will be an amazing story. I've always liked Argentina and it would be great for Messi to finally win it and put him up there alongside Maradona amongst the all time greats. I've also always liked the way Croatia play the game and it would be good if they could get the top prize before this set of star players retire. If France win, Mbape will be one step closer to emulating Pele, the greatest of them all. I just hope we get some good exciting football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamP Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Looking forward to game tonight. Only reason I want, slightly, Argentina is because of Messi. But won't be disappointed if Croatia win. Just hope it's a good game with plenty of talking points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 I'm going for 4 minutes before the commentators mention England. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 I don’t like Argentina, hope Croatia pump them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzo Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Why fanny about with short corners 🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, bonzo said: Why fanny about with short corners 🤦♂️ Kind of goal Killie lose 😯 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcguffin Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 7 hours ago, dan cake said: 531 arrests in this country for football related incidents since the World Cup began In Scotland? 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 ITV pundits believe they know more about refereeing than Peter Walton 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcguffin Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Going to be a real challenge now for Croatia. Fingers crossed for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamP Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Messi. Enough said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newryrep Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 8 hours ago, daviebee said: This appears to be genuine as far as I can see - https://www.givemesport.com/88094063-england-world-cup-exit-company-facing-major-loss-after-buying-winners-t-shirts?fbclid=IwAR0ATPBPP693qaseOO16hthCSKfKMCCGUJZ5fOASYjSUV-yo321S78XFI8s Can you imagine anyone being this fkin stupid? I daresay the free nationwide publicity he got for his money it was extremely good business as he couldnt lose Unlike his team 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 🤯 Anyway lump on Morocco! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 10 hours ago, daviebee said: Aye, but ordering 18,000??? I really hope it's a spoof as it's genuinely scary to think that there are folk like that walking among us. Maybe somebody will mass produce Twelfth of Never labels to stitch over them. 😁 Aye it's madness but it's England we are talking about. Anyway Messi sublime tonight. That run for the 3rd goal was tremendous. Really hope they win it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Toepoke said: 🤯 Anyway lump on Morocco! Hernandez also wears number 22. What's yer point caller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 6 hours ago, Orraloon said: Hernandez also wears number 22. What's yer point caller? Not for Chelsea tho 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Hoping for Argentina v Morocco in the final. The atmosphere would be incredible. Messi last night was unplayable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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