Toepoke Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, morrie21 said: Not a good final at all. Post 60mins one team went far too negative hoping they could drag their opponent into the deep waters of extra-time, or force them to re-live their shootout hell of Wednesday night. Crazy plan. No shortage of effort and some good defending from Souttar in particular but the quality in the final third from both teams during the 90 was seriously lacking. Would have been interesting if Hearts had more of a go, they didn't and were duly punished when Rangers brought on their in-form players for the late stages/extra-time. I did post that after 20 minutes 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrie21 Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, exile said: Did Hearts have a shot on target? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrie21 Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, Toepoke said: I did post that after 20 minutes 😄 Fair enough mate - didn't realise 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silversand Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 Thought it was a pretty rotten final. Better team won, thought Hearts would have more than they did. Rangers did well considering their midweek exploits. 😁👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted May 21, 2022 Author Share Posted May 21, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, exile said: Ooft, just pushed past the post by Gordon... ...Wright hits the woodwork If that’s the one that he saved with his foot at the death of 90 minutes, Rangers should’ve had a pen. Blatant pull on the shirt. Edited May 21, 2022 by dandydunn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 1 hour ago, vanderark14 said: Disappointing to see the old firm win every trophy Only St Johnstone have stopped that in the past 6 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 Congratulations Rangers. Best team won on the day. Hearts offered little after half time but up to then thought we would make a game of it. When boyce went off it was curtains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 Delighted to come away with the win, thought we were by far the better team but was worried that fatigue might get the better of us however that bunch of players are by far the fittest I’ve ever seen. Bright Hearts were pretty disappointing and I’d imagine the Jambo’s fans will be pretty shocked at them not having a shot on target in 120 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Malcolm said: When boyce went off it was curtains It really was, Andy Halliday was a massive downgrade. And the wee guy on the lid of the cup was more mobile than Simms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 18 minutes ago, Malcolm said: Congratulations Rangers. Best team won on the day. Hearts offered little after half time but up to then thought we would make a game of it. When boyce went off it was curtains 😀 you cannot be real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shunkyboy and the fluffer Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 34 minutes ago, Malcolm said: Congratulations Rangers. Best team won on the day. Hearts offered little after half time but up to then thought we would make a game of it. When boyce went off it was curtains Proper Gutted you must be mate😭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 1 hour ago, dandydunn said: If that’s the one that he saved with his foot at the death of 90 minutes, Rangers should’ve had a pen. Blatant pull on the shirt. Yes that's right. In the replay, it wasn't the strongest shot but Gordon had to make the save. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Scot Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 Why is it that teams in Scotland just dont have a go at the Old Firm. It has to be a deep ingrained mindset into the clubs. Frustrates me so much. Hearts have been by far and away the best team outside the Old Firm this year. Have played some really good football and then they get to the cup final and abandon everything thats got them there, dont play to their strengths and basically just hope they can either nick a goal or take Rangers to pens. Surely fans would appreciate then having a go and getting beat by a few. Im not saying gung ho, just normal attacking football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 With rangers firmly back on their feet (or appear to be so) and the monies both they and Celtic are able to earn from European competition will another team ever win a domestic trophy again in Scotland ? If that’s the best the third best team can do it would suggest the gap is totally insurmountable. Can only see another team winning anything if there’s another old firm administration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 1 hour ago, thplinth said: 😀 you cannot be real. Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, JECK said: With rangers firmly back on their feet (or appear to be so) and the monies both they and Celtic are able to earn from European competition will another team ever win a domestic trophy again in Scotland ? If that’s the best the third best team can do it would suggest the gap is totally insurmountable. Can only see another team winning anything if there’s another old firm administration The gap is huuuuuugggee. Big. Very big. Like from old firm up to epl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 1 hour ago, JECK said: With rangers firmly back on their feet (or appear to be so) and the monies both they and Celtic are able to earn from European competition will another team ever win a domestic trophy again in Scotland ? If that’s the best the third best team can do it would suggest the gap is totally insurmountable. Can only see another team winning anything if there’s another old firm administration It's shocking 16 of the last 18 trophies have been won by the OF Prior to that during the years when rangers had to re-enter Scottish football and start from league 2..... it was something like 6 or 7 different clubs won a trophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auchinyell Sox Change Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Diamond Scot said: Why is it that teams in Scotland just dont have a go at the Old Firm. It has to be a deep ingrained mindset into the clubs. Frustrates me so much. Hearts have been by far and away the best team outside the Old Firm this year. Have played some really good football and then they get to the cup final and abandon everything thats got them there, dont play to their strengths and basically just hope they can either nick a goal or take Rangers to pens. Surely fans would appreciate then having a go and getting beat by a few. Im not saying gung ho, just normal attacking football. Possibly tactics of boss ? Only reading between lines as didnt see the match our game changed forever in 1986 - took a few years for OF to achieve near domination through $$$ ; also had a polarising effect on some of their fans who lost interest in the national side to solely focus on club or more disturbingly gravitate to england & ireland suspect start of epl and saturation live tv accounted for a lot of “ provincial “ club fans ….. 2 sad memories i have from early 2000s ; young dons fan in red top being bought a rangers top in sports shop ahead of me in queue by his mum rangers fan i bought house of in westhill discussing the forthcoming “match” - id said i didnt think it wason tv ( v iceland under berti vogts ) = him ‘ am watching the england game “ bit off topic i know salary cap / draft pick / 4 foreigners rule - gulf obviously getting bigger every year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Diamond Scot said: Why is it that teams in Scotland just dont have a go at the Old Firm. It has to be a deep ingrained mindset into the clubs. Frustrates me so much. Hearts have been by far and away the best team outside the Old Firm this year. Have played some really good football and then they get to the cup final and abandon everything thats got them there, dont play to their strengths and basically just hope they can either nick a goal or take Rangers to pens. Surely fans would appreciate then having a go and getting beat by a few. Im not saying gung ho, just normal attacking football. Mainly because they are not good enough Have you ever played football in a side where you are patently weaker than the opposition ? You can be up for it and give as much blood and thunder as you have but (a) You cant keep it up for 90 minutes (b) They very rarely roll over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Great end to the season after the trauma of Wednesday. We strolled yesterday’s game which is pretty incredible after the last weeks exertions. Lots to look forward to. I’m hoping Scott Wright is going to be a very big player for Rangers next season. Gio seems to be good for his game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Scot Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 9 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: Mainly because they are not good enough Have you ever played football in a side where you are patently weaker than the opposition ? You can be up for it and give as much blood and thunder as you have but (a) You cant keep it up for 90 minutes (b) They very rarely roll over Plenty of times but ive never played for a team who have setup to just defend. Especially when my team have been winning games. For example when my teams been doing well in the 2nd division and then play a 1st division team. You go into those games with a degree of confidence. Im not saying Hearts should have gone all out attack however it was clear from their tactics that they werent going to commit players forward like they have been all season. Sims was flicking the ball onto nobody and then it would just come straight back at them. Teams all over the world manage to execute a game plan against the best teams with vast resources. They dont always win but they have a plan which isnt just park the bus. Rangers clearly have more money than Hearts and therefore are expected to have better players however you cant tell me that players such as Balogoun, Arfield, 37 year old Davis, Amad and Wright strike such fear into Hearts that they decide to not play football. Hearts have been really good this season. They have the best GK in the league, a solid defence and a striker with real presence. Their midfield have supported attacks and looked dangerous. I just dont understand where the belielf then goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Hearts did sit back too much in the second half but they were still in with a shout. A better corner in the last minute and the cup could've been going to Gorgie. Rangers superior fitness told in extra time. Hearts were running on empty. It was like the Watson v Cink play off at Turnberry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Scot Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 19 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Hearts did sit back too much in the second half but they were still in with a shout. A better corner in the last minute and the cup could've been going to Gorgie. Rangers superior fitness told in extra time. Hearts were running on empty. It was like the Watson v Cink play off at Turnberry. Why did Rangers have superior fitness? I can understand the quality argument when it comes to money but all clubs in the Premiership are full time. Surely Hearts should be just as fit as Rangers and fresher given Rangers have had to play midweek / weekend for a good period now including a couple of extra times, played a cup final on Wed and then had to travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Diamond Scot said: Why did Rangers have superior fitness? Better athletes I guess. As mentioned earlier, Rangers have been shown to be fitter than Celtic and Eintracht in recent matches. Edited May 22, 2022 by Toepoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Toepoke said: Hearts did sit back too much in the second half but they were still in with a shout. A better corner in the last minute and the cup could've been going to Gorgie. Rangers superior fitness told in extra time. Hearts were running on empty. It was like the Watson v Cink play off at Turnberry. that was the tactic. Defend, defend, defend and hope to nick it from a set piece or counter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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