Blantyre_Braveheart Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Jack was absolutely phenomenal tonight. His passing range and vision seem to have improved. Seemed to be spotting passes and clipping passes he wouldn't have tried in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Blantyre_Braveheart said: Jack was absolutely phenomenal tonight. His passing range and vision seem to have improved. Seemed to be spotting passes and clipping passes he wouldn't have tried in the past. We have no one like him. In role or function or style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Ryan Jack outstanding again. Â Bossed it against top European opposition. Â Think he has just played himself in to a starting slot for the Ukraine game. No way Clarke will leave him out after a performance like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 Jack was absolutely immense against one of Europe’s top sides getting a MOM performance. Some serious tough calls for Clarke for this squad that’s for sure. Jack obviously will be in the squad and based on tonight It’s going to be very hard to leave him out of the starting team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 based on tonight’s performance he would be straight in the team.  A lot depends on where Clarke is going to play Mctominay, but I would pick a midfield 3 of jack, Mctominay and Mcginn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Scot Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 31 minutes ago, Malcolm said: based on tonight’s performance he would be straight in the team.  A lot depends on where Clarke is going to play Mctominay, but I would pick a midfield 3 of jack, Mctominay and Mcginn. No Gilmour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Diamond Scot said: No Gilmour? hmmm. I know, difficult to leave out.  Play gilmour and only one up top.  I don’t ‘know tough call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Scot Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 28 minutes ago, Malcolm said: hmmm. I know, difficult to leave out.  Play gilmour and only one up top.  I don’t ‘know tough call. For me Gilmour and McGinn are must picks. Gilmour is a step above anything we have in terms of keeping the ball ticking over, making himself available etc. He really does set the temp for us which at such a young age is amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 Clarke has some tough decisions to make regarding the midfield. Personally I would stick with gilmour mcgregor mcginn but maybe a midfield diamond of        Jack Gilmour     mcgregor       Mcginn might be worth a try in the future. Then theres mctominay as well who is playing every week for man utd. Our midfield strength in depth is strong and guys like Ferguson and McLean are going to have a tough time getting in the squad.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfingers Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 3 hours ago, mccaughey85 said: Clarke has some tough decisions to make regarding the midfield. Personally I would stick with gilmour mcgregor mcginn but maybe a midfield diamond of        Jack Gilmour     mcgregor       Mcginn might be worth a try in the future. Then theres mctominay as well who is playing every week for man utd. Our midfield strength in depth is strong and guys like Ferguson and McLean are going to have a tough time getting in the squad.  I was thinking that too but with Turnbull injured there’s that place up for grabs. Maybe for a slightly more attacking midfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 10 hours ago, Malcolm said: based on tonight’s performance he would be straight in the team.  A lot depends on where Clarke is going to play Mctominay, but I would pick a midfield 3 of jack, Mctominay and Mcginn. I cannot see Gilmour not playing, he is integral in how we play. I think he'll stick with McGinn, McGregor and Gilmour and quite rightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: I cannot see Gilmour not playing, he is integral in how we play. I think he'll stick with McGinn, McGregor and Gilmour and quite rightly. He almost certainly will. In fact, the only chance that will change is if he decides to play McTominay in midfield, not Jack. I'm sure Jack was great last night, but no way is Clarke going to change his starting 11 after, what, 2 and a half games back from a long injury? Clarke has proven he doesn't call people up on knee jerk reactions, without there being an injury crisis. (See Hickey, Gauld, Ralston, Turnbull etc) Saying all that, I have no doubt Jack will be reinstated into the squad. Which I'm more than happy with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wee-toon-red Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 11 hours ago, ProudScot said: Jack was absolutely immense against one of Europe’s top sides getting a MOM performance. Some serious tough calls for Clarke for this squad that’s for sure. Jack obviously will be in the squad and based on tonight It’s going to be very hard to leave him out of the starting team. Dortmund aren't one of Europe's top sides but Jack is a tremendous player, as most Aberdeen fans were saying years ago, so he's well worth a place in the Scotland squad. He won't start though, it'll be McGregor, Gilmour and McGinn as the strength of those three as a unit outweighs anything one individual will bring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 46 minutes ago, wee-toon-red said: Dortmund aren't one of Europe's top sides but Jack is a tremendous player, as most Aberdeen fans were saying years ago, so he's well worth a place in the Scotland squad. He won't start though, it'll be McGregor, Gilmour and McGinn as the strength of those three as a unit outweighs anything one individual will bring. Dortmund are one of Europe’s top sides. It’s a shame Aberdeen fans booed Jack at Pittodrie vs Holland if they think he’s such a tremendous player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Squirrelhumper said: I cannot see Gilmour not playing, he is integral in how we play. I think he'll stick with McGinn, McGregor and Gilmour and quite rightly. Gilmour 100% will start surely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wee-toon-red Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 13 minutes ago, ProudScot said: Dortmund are one of Europe’s top sides. It’s a shame Aberdeen fans booed Jack at Pittodrie vs Holland if they think he’s such a tremendous player. Tremendous players can still be Judas bastards, players rarely get booed because of lack of ability. It was clear when he was a teenager that Jack had excellent talent and temperament, who knows if he'd have got even better going down south rather than staying in Scotland. The German league is weak after Bayern and if Dortmund were that good they wouldn't have got papped out of the Champions League by Ajax and Sporting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 12 hours ago, wee-toon-red said: Dortmund aren't one of Europe's top sides but Jack is a tremendous player, as most Aberdeen fans were saying years ago, so he's well worth a place in the Scotland squad. He won't start though, it'll be McGregor, Gilmour and McGinn as the strength of those three as a unit outweighs anything one individual will bring. Is this a serious statement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 11 hours ago, wee-toon-red said: Tremendous players can still be Judas bastards, players rarely get booed because of lack of ability. It was clear when he was a teenager that Jack had excellent talent and temperament, who knows if he'd have got even better going down south rather than staying in Scotland. The German league is weak after Bayern and if Dortmund were that good they wouldn't have got papped out of the Champions League by Ajax and Sporting. Put the Aberdeen hatred of Rangers aside for a moment and you’ll see Rangers just hammered one of Europe’s top sides on their home turf & it’s one of the best performances and results in Europe by a Scottish club. Hats off to them. And Jack was the best player on the park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scot1 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Good to see Jack back fit and playing well. With the strength we are now building within the squad and in midfield  (depending on injuries), I think that we should seriously consider switching to a back 4 in certain games. This would allow us another midfielder on the pitch. So for example a 4-1-3-2 could have a midfield consisting of  McGregor  Gilmour  McTominay          Jack With McGinn pushed up higher playing off Dykes or Adams This does reintroduce the Robertson/Tierney conundrum if playing a back 4. The only real solution would be to move Tierney into the left-sided Centre Half position beside Hanley/Hendry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 11 hours ago, ProudScot said: Put the Aberdeen hatred of Rangers aside for a moment and you’ll see Rangers just hammered one of Europe’s top sides on their home turf & it’s one of the best performances and results in Europe by a Scottish club. Hats off to them. And Jack was the best player on the park. Exactly. Credit where it's due. Regardless of what you think of Rangers, there is no denying it was a tremendous result. A massive bonus that there was a Scot at the heart of it all. I've seen some people claiming it's the best result for a Scottish team in the modern era. Which is just hyperbolic. Top 10, maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 On 2/18/2022 at 8:33 AM, bigfingers said: I was thinking that too but with Turnbull injured there’s that place up for grabs. Maybe for a slightly more attacking midfielder. Yeh injuries and suspensions means we will need good strength in depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blantyre_Braveheart Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Tartan blood said: Exactly. Credit where it's due. Regardless of what you think of Rangers, there is no denying it was a tremendous result. A massive bonus that there was a Scot at the heart of it all. I've seen some people claiming it's the best result for a Scottish team in the modern era. Which is just hyperbolic. Top 10, maybe. Can you really name many more? Both sides have had some pretty big scalps in recent times but nothing like going to the second best team in Germany and recording a comfortable win. I'd say the biggest result in modern times is Celtic beating Barca (in their prime) at home 2-1, after that I'd say it's this result.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfingers Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Ryan Fraser played well then hobbled off. Hopefully nothing serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Blantyre_Braveheart said: Can you really name many more? Both sides have had some pretty big scalps in recent times but nothing like going to the second best team in Germany and recording a comfortable win. I'd say the biggest result in modern times is Celtic beating Barca (in their prime) at home 2-1, after that I'd say it's this result. Â It depends on how far you want to go back, but if you are talking post-2000 then there are many more. A handful of results from Celtic and Rangers' Uefa cup final runs would be considered bigger e.g Celtic v Liverpool, Rangers v Sporting Lisbon etc Then you have when Celtic and Rangers both got to the last 16 of the CL e.g Celtic v Man U/AC Milan/Barcelona, Rangers v Porto, etc More recently, Celtic beat Lazio away (and at home) who were 2nd in Serie A at the time, if I remember correctly. That was in 2019. I don't want to take away anything from Rangers' achievement, but saying it is the best in modern times is a bit over the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfingers Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Goal for Armstrong assisted by Che. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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