Tartan Chris Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Fraser will play right wing back imo. Guy is in form and has played that position for his club. It's an o.k squad, not a huge amount of match winners but still some good quality in Tierney, Armstrong, Robertson etc. Show me a nation of Scotland's level that has brilliant players in all postions, Wales don't and ROI certainly don't, look at what they've called up today! https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45322004 Seamus Coleman is a class player but so much of this is uninspiring yet they made the last euros and qualified for the World cup play offs from a tricky group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Chris Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 8 hours ago, Doric said: What about up front McBurnie !!!!!!! We were worried about the defence now up front is as bad. Griffiths has lost his touch and the alternative is errrrr Mc Burnie. He should be excluded even though he's scoring regularly?! I accept the guy has much to prove if he can cut it at international level but he's scored about 20 goals for Swansea and Barnsley since the start of the year and considering the lack of options and also the fact scoring regularly at championship level has been enough to get players like Rhodes regularly in the squad and I don't see your criteria for him missing out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Chris Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Back 5 will be something like: Souttar Mulgrew Tierney Fraser Robertson I think Matt Phillips will play upfront with Griffiths. McBurnie plan B option off the bench. Central midfield is strongest part of the squad so most important thing is to pick a balanced trio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Tartan Chris said: Back 5 will be something like: Souttar Mulgrew Tierney Fraser Robertson I think Matt Phillips will play upfront with Griffiths. McBurnie plan B option off the bench. Central midfield is strongest part of the squad so most important thing is to pick a balanced trio. I think O’ Donnell deserves a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotland Ever More Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 12 hours ago, Rab The Crab said: Exactly, Mulgrew was an established international who strolled league one. While I’ve nothing against Liam Lindsay I wonder how many who are demanding he be called up have actually seen him play since he left Partick. I wasn't demanding anything, I just asked if he was injured. I haven't seen him play at all for Barnsley but I do see Jack Hendry play every single game and doubt he can be any worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotland Ever More Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 15 hours ago, PASTA Mick said: Yes but Mulgrew had experience at a much higher level. But had been out the national team for a while before earning a recall while playing in league one. There's been other examples anyway, Jordan Rhodes was banging them in for Huddersfield when he got his first call up and nobody questioned the league he was playing in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davied14 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 9 hours ago, Tartan Chris said: Back 5 will be something like: Souttar Mulgrew Tierney Fraser Robertson I think Matt Phillips will play upfront with Griffiths. McBurnie plan B option off the bench. Central midfield is strongest part of the squad so most important thing is to pick a balanced trio. I think that will be the back 5 with McGinn & McTominay in midfield and McGregor & Armstrong supporting Griffiths in attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Fraser’s club manager has said he doesn’t want him to be a defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I wonder Souttar could make a shock appearance at right back. He has the pace and technique. I think it would only be in a back four though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 hour ago, er yir macaroon said: I wonder Souttar could make a shock appearance at right back. He has the pace and technique. I think it would only be in a back four though. What's folks obsession about playing players out of position?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Scotland Ever More said: But had been out the national team for a while before earning a recall while playing in league one. There's been other examples anyway, Jordan Rhodes was banging them in for Huddersfield when he got his first call up and nobody questioned the league he was playing in. Yes they did. Most people asked whether Rhodes would be able to make the big step up and the answer appears to be that he can't. We shouldn't be picking players from England's third division. Mulgrew wasn't ideal but he was a player with Champions League experience playing in a problem position for us and looked like Messi in that division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: What's folks obsession about playing players out of position?! you have an ulterior motive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: you have an ulterior motive! I don’t and I agree with Squirrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotland Ever More Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, PASTA Mick said: Yes they did. Most people asked whether Rhodes would be able to make the big step up and the answer appears to be that he can't. We shouldn't be picking players from England's third division. Mulgrew wasn't ideal but he was a player with Champions League experience playing in a problem position for us and looked like Messi in that division. Any time I've seen him play for Partick he's looked a better player than Hendry, I doubt a few months in league one has made him any worse. Edited August 28, 2018 by Scotland Ever More Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab The Crab Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Scotland Ever More said: I wasn't demanding anything, I just asked if he was injured. I haven't seen him play at all for Barnsley but I do see Jack Hendry play every single game and doubt he can be any worse. Of course you weren’t demanding, I’ve just read numerous comments on various media over the last 24 hours though with people wanting him called up and probably haven’t seen him play since he left the jags. For what it’s worth I think Hanley is probably better than Hendry and Lindsay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwhitelaw Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Playing guys from League 1 didn't do Northern Ireland's last 2 qualification campaigns any harm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 40 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: you have an ulterior motive! I don't, I'd say the same when folk are wanting Tierney at Centre Half etc. Play to players strengths, it's not rocket science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrisandmoo Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 13 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: I don't, I'd say the same when folk are wanting Tierney at Centre Half etc. Play to players strengths, it's not rocket science. What do you want to happen with tierney and Robertson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrisandmoo Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I'm happy with the team. It's not a bunch of world beaters but it is a resounding change of the gaurd. Which we were all calling out for. I was quite struck by Oneils comments that they had 24yr olds with 50 caps while our best ones had 5. 10x experience at international level is a massive gulf. We need to put our chips down behind this squad, build that individual experience and hold tight. I wouldn't chop and change unless there is a very compelling reason. O'Donnell should start. As much as mccleish gives me the shiters at least he's got a half decent squad that should win their nations league group, regardless of anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 18 minutes ago, Morrisandmoo said: What do you want to happen with tierney and Robertson? They play in the same position. If one has to miss out then so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 22 hours ago, Bino's said: Did he play a back three in the previous friendlies A formation change If a back 3 is good enough for 3 out of 4 world cup semi-finalists it will do for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, Ormond said: They play in the same position. If one has to miss out then so be it. No way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 3 hours ago, er yir macaroon said: Fraser’s club manager has said he doesn’t want him to be a defender. Could be wrong but I think he's been playing for his club at left mid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 27 minutes ago, Ormond said: They play in the same position. If one has to miss out then so be it. Lots of players are perfectly capable of playing in more than one position, Tierney included. I agree that players shouldn’t be played out of position if we already have a better player in that position or if playing the player out of position would be a liability but neither of those would necessarily be true if Tierney was played at RB or CB. I haven’t seen much of O’Donnell but he shouldn’t be in the squad if he’s not good enough to play so he should be given a chance at RB. McLeish has already hinted that Tierney will play in central defence so it’s more than likely this will be the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 40 minutes ago, Morrisandmoo said: I'm happy with the team. It's not a bunch of world beaters but it is a resounding change of the gaurd. Which we were all calling out for. I was quite struck by Oneils comments that they had 24yr olds with 50 caps while our best ones had 5. 10x experience at international level is a massive gulf. We need to put our chips down behind this squad, build that individual experience and hold tight. I wouldn't chop and change unless there is a very compelling reason. O'Donnell should start. As much as mccleish gives me the shiters at least he's got a half decent squad that should win their nations league group, regardless of anything else. Good point. Time we stopped fretting about where they play. Southgate is calling up people who are not in the first team every week, creating a club mentality. We have to stop this chopping and changing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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