SkyBlueScot Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Over the past few months both these players have been getting praise on here and there seems to be a buzz about them both. Just wondered how they can be compared? Both are around the same age and both wingers. (An exciting right back would be nice though!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 From what I've seen, Middleton is more a no nonsense beat the man and get the ball in type. He’s got good pace and also scores goals. Johnston seems both quick and very skilful. He may be the better prospect, but it could go either way, and my hope is both will make it to the full squad. Morgan is also there and conceivably all 3 could play together, with the two footed Morgan in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 I rate both of them highly. In the Toulon tournament, Johnston was selected ahead of Middleton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Johnston also eligibile for ROI... get him capped in the autumn before we have another mcgeady/mcarthy situation on our hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 From what I've seen they both look very good players, I'd say Johnston looks the stand out though but early days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Malcolm said: Johnston also eligibile for ROI... get him capped in the autumn before we have another mcgeady/mcarthy situation on our hands. Absolutely. Though McGeady and McCarthy turned up ultimately to be no loss to us, we don't want anymore nonsense just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawickta Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: Absolutely. Though McGeady and McCarthy turned up ultimately to be no loss to us, we don't want anymore nonsense just in case. Could argue that they were a huge loss (both qualified for 2 tournaments in the last few years while we stayed at home). Extremely fine margins, hypothetically could have made the difference...(personally wouldn't want either in my team mind you). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 29 minutes ago, hawickta said: Could argue that they were a huge loss (both qualified for 2 tournaments in the last few years while we stayed at home). Aye McGeady especially at his peak could have got us to a couple of tournaments. His loss, he could've been a hero in Scotland but chose a different path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 43 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Aye McGeady especially at his peak could have got us to a couple of tournaments. His loss, he could've been a hero in Scotland but chose a different path. Turned out he had no pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 51 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Aye McGeady especially at his peak could have got us to a couple of tournaments. His loss, he could've been a hero in Scotland but chose a different path. He wasn’t that good. Bale or Ronaldo could carry a team to s tournament. Aiden McGeady couldn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 McGeady would have been a great option to have around 2010-2012 when Fletcher was struck down with his illness, and probably would have been a main stay in the team, but would he have made us that much better? Debatable, as end of the day, Ireland had Robbie Keane, so were good for goals, while we never had that luxury. So I doubt he would have made the difference between making a tournament or not. Plus I felt he spent far to long in Russia, and think Everton signed him based on what he was doing for Ireland, rather than his week to week form at club level. As for Johnston and Middleton, seen both at youth level for Scotland, and found Middleton to be the more exciting, but that is simply because he is good for goals, so has stood out. Fingers crossed that both can progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 I haven’t seen much of Michael Johnston but if Rangers keep struggling with attacking options I don’t think it will be long before Middleton is a fixture in the starting 11 at Ibrox. Will McLeish be looking to play with wingers though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Just now, Texas Pete said: I haven’t seen much of Michael Johnston but if Rangers keep struggling with attacking options I don’t think it will be long before Middleton is a fixture in the starting 11 at Ibrox. Will McLeish be looking to play with wingers though? Unless both can make a Tierney style impact on Scottish football from the off, where you simply can not over look them (regardless of how young they are), one or both might make a squad before the end of the year, but I think it will be a long time before we see either near the main squad. Unless Johnston goes on loan to St Mirren, I think there is more chance of seeing a lot more of Middleton next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 hour ago, er yir macaroon said: Turned out he had no pace. He certainly seemed to lose it after leaving Celtic. When he was around 20 his abilty to carry the ball up the pitch quickly was phenomenal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 26 minutes ago, Toepoke said: He certainly seemed to lose it after leaving Celtic. When he was around 20 his abilty to carry the ball up the pitch quickly was phenomenal. When he was in the SPL he looked fast he didn't lose any actual speed after his move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 40 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: When he was in the SPL he looked fast he didn't lose any actual speed after his move. Agreed he went on to play at a higher level regularly, but I remember him having some sensational performances for Celtic in the Champions League. He didn't seem to be the same player by the time he went to Moscow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Don't think mcgeady would of got us til tournaments. The main gripe everyone had imo was that he was at the time capable of becoming a top player in the world but chose Ireland when we clearly needed a talented creative flair player like him badly. It turned out he didn't quite fulfill his potential and tbh I feel Maloney was a better player anyways. Saying that he would of been a good option and would definitely started alot of games had he picked us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave78 Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 McGeady scored twice in Georgia, in a match the ROI deserved to draw. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/29030263 Had he done the same for Scotland in 2007 and 2015, he'd have qualified us for 2 tournaments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Dave78 said: McGeady scored twice in Georgia, in a match the ROI deserved to draw. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/29030263 Had he done the same for Scotland in 2007 and 2015, he'd have qualified us for 2 tournaments. If ma aunt had baws she’d be my uncle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger intae them Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 If ma baws could hear they'd be ma ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Stop wetting the bed. There is nothing to suggest Johnston will play for anyone but Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazmidd Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 It's just a pity as it stands two of our best young prospects will be spending the majority of their time on the bench and playing reserve league football this season as the Old Firm spend money on duffers. Both are ready for first team football they really should be playing a full season at this age to develop. Give the boys a chance. Same with Jack Aitchison btw what is the point of them playing another season of boys football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted July 26, 2018 Share Posted July 26, 2018 2 hours ago, bazmidd said: It's just a pity as it stands two of our best young prospects will be spending the majority of their time on the bench and playing reserve league football this season as the Old Firm spend money on duffers. Both are ready for first team football they really should be playing a full season at this age to develop. Give the boys a chance. Same with Jack Aitchison btw what is the point of them playing another season of boys football Yes every one should go out on loan and the old firm are evil. Johnston apparently is going out on loan and and if Middleton is any good he will get into the Rangers team. Who do you suggest lending him out to, Queen of the South or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazmidd Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Anyone rather than sitting on the bench at Celtic or Rangers. How can you ever learn to play football without actually playing football..... Rangers and Celtic do a lot of good for the Scottish national team, Celtic under Brendan Rodgers especially have recently made a point of developing home grown players. But young boys at those clubs are generally the best at their age in the country, but they are not as good as the first team players, unless they are very special, yet...... So they need to learn, need to play, to become better than the players they are hoping to replace. I'm not slating the old firm, it is what it is, they will always hoover up the best young talent as they simply have the bigger reputation better resources and more money to spend. They should not though hoover these players up and then leave them to rot from 18 till 21 kicking their heels on the bench or playing in reserve leagues until they are deemed no longer potential but past 21 and not good enough. If it's a loan a transfer or a Bit team great but something needs done to introduce full time men's football to these boys from 18 onwards or they will hit 21 22 like all the rest and not learned a jot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 hour ago, bazmidd said: Anyone rather than sitting on the bench at Celtic or Rangers. How can you ever learn to play football without actually playing football..... Rangers and Celtic do a lot of good for the Scottish national team, Celtic under Brendan Rodgers especially have recently made a point of developing home grown players. But young boys at those clubs are generally the best at their age in the country, but they are not as good as the first team players, unless they are very special, yet...... So they need to learn, need to play, to become better than the players they are hoping to replace. I'm not slating the old firm, it is what it is, they will always hoover up the best young talent as they simply have the bigger reputation better resources and more money to spend. They should not though hoover these players up and then leave them to rot from 18 till 21 kicking their heels on the bench or playing in reserve leagues until they are deemed no longer potential but past 21 and not good enough. If it's a loan a transfer or a Bit team great but something needs done to introduce full time men's football to these boys from 18 onwards or they will hit 21 22 like all the rest and not learned a jot I think this was true 5 years ago but not now. A lot of Old Firm players go out on loan. At Celtic they play in the Champions League youth version against the best youths players in the world. Rangers have replicated that and played a series of games against the best youth teams in Europe, preparing their players for European and a International football. Over familiarity has held Scottish football back. Scottish players have no idea how to play against teams and players they’ve never encountered before. More than likely that’s Aberdeen and Hibs out of Europe already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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