Texas Pete Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 36 minutes ago, Toepoke said: I like his new specs. He looks like the third Ronnie. It’s piss off from him and piss off from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Texas Pete said: He looks like the third Ronnie. It’s piss off from him and piss off from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 The perception of hughes is a big issue, we see him as some sort of thicko but he has a point. Every manager has a bad spell at one point. he did take Falkirk to a final, ICT to two, one of which he won. Falkirk and ICT in Europe for first time ever. Got Hibs into Europe, yes they got knocked out but thats hardly a stick to beat him with considering no scottish side has done anything of note for about a decade. I'm not saying Hughes is the answer but if you look at the other candidates, he's not the worst. I'd have him before McLiesh any day of the week, mcliesh was succesful at one club, Rangers. He had an open cheque book there so its debatable whether he is any good. Amazingly Chick Young made a great point last night..................yes you read that right. The Scotland manager over the years doesn't have a specific profile, the more recent succeses in the 80's and 90's were with two managers with very little experience or success so this proves experience is not and should not be a prerequisite , it can be desired but another example is Walter Smith. Some see him as succesful (i don't)yet he failed as scotland manager. We went after Michael O'Neil due to his experience with Northern Ireland but before he got that experience his managerial career was hardly headline making.............Brechin and Shamrock Rovers, I bet the Northern Ireland fans were concerned with his appointment at the time. Even his playing career would be classed as journeyman esque. Chris Coleman had a semi decent period at Fulham and then went on to huge success with Wales, again not exactly setting the heather alight prior to being at Wales. On paper the names being touted are not household names but why does it have to be experienced or succesful when its clear thats almost impossible to get for a national job like Scotland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefaetheferry Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 My favourite bit went something like “Ah dinnae ken aboot whaur we are in the rankings like but it’ll no be very guid” 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 1 hour ago, vanderark14 said: The perception of hughes is a big issue, we see him as some sort of thicko but he has a point. Every manager has a bad spell at one point. he did take Falkirk to a final, ICT to two, one of which he won. Falkirk and ICT in Europe for first time ever. Got Hibs into Europe, yes they got knocked out but thats hardly a stick to beat him with considering no scottish side has done anything of note for about a decade. I'm not saying Hughes is the answer but if you look at the other candidates, he's not the worst. I'd have him before McLiesh any day of the week,mcliesh was succesful at one club, Rangers. He had an open cheque book there so its debatable whether he is any good. Amazingly Chick Young made a great point last night..................yes you read that right. The Scotland manager over the years doesn't have a specific profile, the more recent succeses in the 80's and 90's were with two managers with very little experience or success so this proves experience is not and should not be a prerequisite , it can be desired but another example is Walter Smith. Some see him as succesful (i don't)yet he failed as scotland manager. We went after Michael O'Neil due to his experience with Northern Ireland but before he got that experience his managerial career was hardly headline making.............Brechin and Shamrock Rovers, I bet the Northern Ireland fans were concerned with his appointment at the time. Even his playing career would be classed as journeyman esque. Chris Coleman had a semi decent period at Fulham and then went on to huge success with Wales, again not exactly setting the heather alight prior to being at Wales. On paper the names being touted are not household names but why does it have to be experienced or succesful when its clear thats almost impossible to get for a national job like Scotland? He also took Motherwell to a second place finish in the SPL, got Hibs promoted, won the English league cup with Birmingham and kept an imploding Aston Villa in the EPL. Even at Rangers and with an open cheque book he was up against Martin O'Neill and his open cheque book at Celtic and still got the better of him on a few occasions. In addition, he led a Scottish side to the knockout stages of the Champions League for the first time. I don't particularly want Mcleish but to say he was only successful at Rangers is a bit unfair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Mcleish is the man. Dickov as number 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitre Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Keith Jackson on Twitter says its McLeish keith jackson @tedermeatballs 4m4 minutes ago More Alex McLeish on the verge of landing the Scotland job ... story up soon @Record_Sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 11 minutes ago, Mitre said: Keith Jackson on Twitter says its McLeish keith jackson @tedermeatballs 4m4 minutes ago More Alex McLeish on the verge of landing the Scotland job ... story up soon @Record_Sport All the signs suggest it is McLeish. Wouldn't have been my choice but there you go. Like anybody taking on this poisoned chalice of a job he'll have my full backing and wish him all the best. If he can have the same sort of wins to matches ratio as he had first time around it may not be all doom and gloom (trying to find some positivity here). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbiscuit Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Sounds like Lennon would take it.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43077143 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 6 hours ago, scotlad said: He also took Motherwell to a second place finish in the SPL, got Hibs promoted, won the English league cup with Birmingham and kept an imploding Aston Villa in the EPL. Even at Rangers and with an open cheque book he was up against Martin O'Neill and his open cheque book at Celtic and still got the better of him on a few occasions. In addition, he led a Scottish side to the knockout stages of the Champions League for the first time. I don't particularly want Mcleish but to say he was only successful at Rangers is a bit unfair. Done a great job at the Hibernians, will be eternally grateful for witnessing his swashbuckling cavaliers destroying the big team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 What a complete joke. A pathetic, shambles of an appointment but befitting of the clueless inept leaders at Hampden. Completely uninspiring and woefully short sighted. I’ve been massive supporter of the National team for 30 years, have defended the management and players way too often than I should have but I’m just about done. I’m honestly tired of the total buffoons running things. I hope when competitive games come around I will feel differently but right now it’s just difficult to feel anything but disillusion at this decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Stevie Clark is in work and doing a good job. Neil Lennon is in work and doing a good job. Alex McLeish is out of work for a reason. It's not rocket science, if he is not good enough for the multiple manager jobs that have come up over the last few years then why is he ahead of these guys?! Because the blazers want someone who is desperate for a job and wont rock the boat. Utterly depressing stuff. If we appoint McLeish, the blazers have to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 19 minutes ago, Dogbiscuit said: Sounds like Lennon would take it.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43077143 He's went from starting to sound like he'd take it to starting to sound like he wants it, surprised he had time to talk about it with tonight's game on the horizon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeeJohnny Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 41 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: All the signs suggest it is McLeish. Wouldn't have been my choice but there you go. Like anybody taking on this poisoned chalice of a job he'll have my full backing and wish him all the best. If he can have the same sort of wins to matches ratio as he had first time around it may not be all doom and gloom (trying to find some positivity here). Settle down Caledonian Craig - "he'll have my full backing" and "positivity" you must be on the wrong site/thread !!!??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, Marty said: Stevie Clark is in work and doing a good job. Neil Lennon is in work and doing a good job. Alex McLeish is out of work for a reason. It's not rocket science, if he is not good enough for the multiple manager jobs that have come up over the last few years then why is he ahead of these guys?! Because the blazers want someone who is desperate for a job and wont rock the boat. Utterly depressing stuff. If we appoint McLeish, the blazers have to go. Firstly, by all accounts the leading candidates won't touch the job with a f***ing bargepole. Clarke has been quoted as saying now is not the time as has Moyes. If Lennon truly wants it let him apply. Has he? I doubt it reading by the quotes today. I'd love the SFA to release the names of those having applied (just out of interest) but I bet all of us will be shocked, deflated, dejected and sad by the standard of the candidates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drew Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 8 hours ago, vanderark14 said: The perception of hughes is a big issue, we see him as some sort of thicko but he has a point. Every manager has a bad spell at one point. he did take Falkirk to a final, ICT to two, one of which he won. Falkirk and ICT in Europe for first time ever. Got Hibs into Europe, yes they got knocked out but thats hardly a stick to beat him with considering no scottish side has done anything of note for about a decade. I'm not saying Hughes is the answer but if you look at the other candidates, he's not the worst. I'd have him before McLiesh any day of the week, mcliesh was succesful at one club, Rangers. He had an open cheque book there so its debatable whether he is any good. Amazingly Chick Young made a great point last night..................yes you read that right. The Scotland manager over the years doesn't have a specific profile, the more recent succeses in the 80's and 90's were with two managers with very little experience or success so this proves experience is not and should not be a prerequisite , it can be desired but another example is Walter Smith. Some see him as succesful (i don't)yet he failed as scotland manager. We went after Michael O'Neil due to his experience with Northern Ireland but before he got that experience his managerial career was hardly headline making.............Brechin and Shamrock Rovers, I bet the Northern Ireland fans were concerned with his appointment at the time. Even his playing career would be classed as journeyman esque. Chris Coleman had a semi decent period at Fulham and then went on to huge success with Wales, again not exactly setting the heather alight prior to being at Wales. On paper the names being touted are not household names but why does it have to be experienced or succesful when its clear thats almost impossible to get for a national job like Scotland? Hughes isn't a bad manager. The Scotland job is probably a position to far for him but he probably has as good if not a better record than Levein considering what he has achieved with lesser clubs. He is to harshly judged because of the way he speaks. I disagree with you about McLeish. Did reasonable jobs at Motherwell and Hibs to get his crack at Rangers. Did what was expected of him at Rangers. Did well with Scotland in his short spell. Mixed spell with Birmingham getting relegated twice but also got promotion and a league cup. Kept Villa up who are a basket case. Everything since then has been down hill I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 53 minutes ago, Caledonian Craig said: All the signs suggest it is McLeish. Wouldn't have been my choice but there you go. Like anybody taking on this poisoned chalice of a job he'll have my full backing and wish him all the best. If he can have the same sort of wins to matches ratio as he had first time around it may not be all doom and gloom (trying to find some positivity here). Correct and Italy should have been a draw. Stevie wonder refereed that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, drew said: Hughes isn't a bad manager. The Scotland job is probably a position to far for him but he probably has as good if not a better record than Levein considering what he has achieved with lesser clubs. Levein isn't the best yardstick, he's never won anything as a manager or player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tattiescone69 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, bonny78 said: Correct and Italy should have been a draw. Stevie wonder refereed that game. Craig Brown got us to our last tournament , why don't we bring him back ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, bonny78 said: Correct and Italy should have been a draw. Stevie wonder refereed that game. No it was Stefano Meravigliarsi... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 24 minutes ago, bonny78 said: Correct and Italy should have been a draw. Stevie wonder refereed that game. If we are going to blame the officials then we should have lost 2-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 11 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: If we are going to blame the officials then we should have lost 2-0 But their free kick was one of the worst decisions ever seen. Not the same as yet another close offside call that happen often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 18 minutes ago, bonny78 said: But their free kick was one of the worst decisions ever seen. Not the same as yet another close offside call that happen often. If you say so Bon Bons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gala Tartan Army (Borders) Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Rod Pettries record picking managers at Hibs is off the scale. Been told he is a pal of Jackie McNamarra Senior ,so don't be surprised to see Junior arrive as chief exec. In a few months time when Rod takes over we could be led by McLeish , McNamarra and Pettrie. That's a combination to make the pulse race and bring belief back into Scottish football is it not ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartanmartin Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 Hearing McLeish has been appointed but I'm still trying to get it confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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