Orraloon Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Scunnered said: You've been indulging in a little bit of project fear yourself... You seem desperate to reassure yourself that you're not on the side of 'Project Fear' and the Conservatives on this issue. We shouldn't forget that "Project Fear" worked, and they won the referendum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 The 'Labour Leave' campaign could have picked a better name. Saw a guy interviewed with a big sign behind him saying Labour leave. I think most people in Scotland have done that already. When you read certain things your brain automatically puts them in the order that makes most sense. I read it as Leave Labour at first until looking at it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 David Cameron is a . Boris Johnson is a . Ian Drunken Arsehole is a . Michael Gove is a . Liam Fox is a . Anyone care to disagree with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 The swear filter is also a . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Barney Rubble said: The swear filter is also a . Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckielugger Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 9 hours ago, stocky said: aye, i like that map. Empires come and Go, but the wee states are still here, consumed my others sometimes, independent at times disappeared at times,, borders moved here and there but they still exist... It proves that big empires or artificially made states are not the answer... lets just have one Europe lots of states... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 On 19/02/2016 at 8:22 PM, Mee said: The current negotiations will have Farage licking his lips. Cameron can't get anything through including paying benefits on a varying ratio based on the location of the children which seems common sense to me if you are going to pay benefits for children that don't live in the country. Highlighting this could well backfire on Cameron. I suspect a lot of people weren't aware that the UK has been paying out benefits for children who don't actually live here and will be furious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86glebestreet Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 32 minutes ago, scotlad said: Highlighting this could well backfire on Cameron. I suspect a lot of people weren't aware that the UK has been paying out benefits for children who don't actually live here and will be furious. Good chance they are paying benefits for children who don't even exist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mee Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Looks like Boris has realised that Osbourne is nailed on as next Tory leader and decided if he can't go round a problem.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 18 hours ago, stocky said: aye, i like that map. Empires come and Go, but the wee states are still here, consumed my others sometimes, independent at times disappeared at times,, borders moved here and there but they still exist... It proves that big empires or artificially made states are not the answer... lets just have one Europe lots of states... Depends on the definition of the states I suppose. Independent Scotland fair enough, independent Cornwall or Brittany? Not sure there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Hmm with Gove in charge of a Brexit campaign I am thinking of changing my vote to staying in. That hideous chinless could alienate anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 One of the good things about this campaign is that the lead characters on both sides are such a despicable bunch of charlatans that anyone who votes on personality won't know what to do. Might end up with more people looking at the actual substance. I can dream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 1 hour ago, thplinth said: Hmm with Gove in charge of a Brexit campaign I am thinking of changing my vote to staying in. That hideous chinless could alienate anyone. Wait until you see the shite that Alan Johnson is putting out from his "Labour In" group, it's vomit inducing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapofGlencoe Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) i never thought i would say this. But i'm undecided. I'm probably still more for staying in than out. I hate the idea of an out being a victory for the racists and the right, though. If it was a people's reaction to the utter democratic shambles of the Parliament, treatment of greece and there was the possibility of radically breaking what the EU has become with a view to a new European project with progressive ideals - I think i'd be all for it. as it is, Farage and the Tories are making it look like a bigoted breakaway. They are repellent. All of their reasons for leaving are the opposite of my own views. It's really conflicting what is for the greater good, for me. Also, to add it's a really illuminating experience being undecided about something. I was very Yes in the Scottish referendum but now can feel what it was like to be a soft no. Edited February 22, 2016 by PapofGlencoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 22 hours ago, Scunnered said: You've been indulging in a little bit of project fear yourself... You seem desperate to reassure yourself that you're not on the side of 'Project Fear' and the Conservatives on this issue. And you seem desperate not to mention the fact that you're on the side of the ultra right wing conservatives like IDS, Boris, Gove etc. as well as Farage & Co. Instead you focus on that old fanny Galloway. Remember. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/feb/17/brexit-threatens-british-workers-rights-maternity-leave-holiday-frances-ogrady-tuc-trades-union-congress-eu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, antidote said: And you seem desperate not to mention the fact that you're on the side of the ultra right wing conservatives like IDS, Boris, Gove etc. as well as Farage & Co. I've mentioned it loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 19 minutes ago, Scunnered said: I've mentioned it loads. There's a good Labour socialist even though your brothers may take a complete hammering if the worse was to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, antidote said: There's a good Labour socialist even though your brothers may take a complete hammering if the worse was to happen. I'm sure you know what you're talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 10 minutes ago, Scunnered said: I'm sure you know what you're talking about. Very sure. Predictable tactic from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 8 minutes ago, antidote said: Very sure. Predictable tactic from you. Predictable not to know what you're talking about? I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antidote Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 51 minutes ago, Scunnered said: Predictable not to know what you're talking about? I see. Oh mystic one please share your inner most thoughts. I'll give you a clue. Starts with 'H' second letter 'Y' third 'P' and ends in 'Y' Or it could be something that fishermen do to catch clams. Take your pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 (edited) 30 minutes ago, antidote said: Oh mystic one please share your inner most thoughts. I'll give you a clue. Starts with 'H' second letter 'Y' third 'P' and ends in 'Y' Or it could be something that fishermen do to catch clams. Take your pick. Ah. You say I'm desperate for not mentioning that I'm on the same side as comrades Farage, Gove, and all the super right wing Tories... Even though I have, LOADS of times. And this is hypocrisy? It's an interesting world you live in champ, I'll give you that. Edited February 22, 2016 by Scunnered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 But the EU protects us against the anti-democratic Wastemonster Government http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2016/02/22/yanis-varoufakis-the-uk-should-stay-in-the-eu-to-fight-tooth-and-nail-against-the-eus-anti-democratic-institutions/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelk Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 The UK is going to stay in. That's what the rich and powerful (beyond the british aristocracy of course and even beyond british shores) want. That's what they'll get. It was the same for the Scottish referendum. It's not like they even give a toss about it, they just don't want boats being rocked. would like to see the old "scotland pulled out against her will" scenario but I doubt it'll happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, thewelk said: would like to see the old "scotland pulled out against her will" scenario Why would you like to see that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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