Reevesy Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 14 hours ago, thewelk said: And about 16000 teeth. Has Oliver Burke been identified as a good guy or a tim? He's going to Rangers on loan as part of the deal for them agreeing to play RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 On 08/01/2017 at 8:11 PM, vanderark14 said: How nice for the people of Leipzig ?? On 08/01/2017 at 8:11 PM, Ormond said: The thought of 8000 Huns on their travels fills me with embarrassment. ?? 21 hours ago, thewelk said: And about 16000 teeth. Has Oliver Burke been identified as a good guy or a tim? ?? Im sure 10 German bombers will go down a treat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefaetheferry Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 On 08/01/2017 at 7:46 PM, aaid said: Rangers are playing Liepzig in a friendly next Sunday. Would imagine a big Hamburg turnout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Hunt Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 RBL currently 4 nil up against Farense in friendly. OB has scored twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazziessc Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Jacques Hunt said: RBL currently 4 nil up against Farense in friendly. OB has scored twice. Always a good thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Hunt Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Just now, Mazziessc said: Always a good thing! Away to non league Portuguese side. Impossible to ignore him now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazziessc Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 17 minutes ago, Jacques Hunt said: Away to non league Portuguese side. Impossible to ignore him now! Nah he will get ignored. If he was playing for the non-league side he would be a stick on tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazziessc Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Just seen his goal from yesterday. Took it well. Some pace in that team btw! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Derek Rae has retweeted some stuff about Burke from the Liepzig Director of Football that was in Kicker. It would be good to see the full translation but in summary. They are happy with his potential and clearly see him as a big player for them in the future *but* they say that he's basically not been coached up until now on what to do when they don't have the ball. As Liepzig play a high pressing game, that's pretty key and they're working on that with him. That's the reas on why at this point he's being used as an impact sub to run at tired defenders. Overall pretty positive for the long term. If they can work on his all round game then we could have a really good one there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, aaid said: Derek Rae has retweeted some stuff about Burke from the Liepzig Director of Football that was in Kicker. It would be good to see the full translation but in summary. They are happy with his potential and clearly see him as a big player for them in the future *but* they say that he's basically not been coached up until now on what to do when they don't have the ball. As Liepzig play a high pressing game, that's pretty key and they're working on that with him. That's the reas on why at this point he's being used as an impact sub to run at tired defenders. Overall pretty positive for the long term. If they can work on his all round game then we could have a really good one there. Said also that that they knocked back approaches from England to take him on loan, and that his whole family are moving out to the area to support him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelk Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 27 minutes ago, aaid said: Derek Rae has retweeted some stuff about Burke from the Liepzig Director of Football that was in Kicker. It would be good to see the full translation but in summary. They are happy with his potential and clearly see him as a big player for them in the future *but* they say that he's basically not been coached up until now on what to do when they don't have the ball. As Liepzig play a high pressing game, that's pretty key and they're working on that with him. That's the reas on why at this point he's being used as an impact sub to run at tired defenders. Overall pretty positive for the long term. If they can work on his all round game then we could have a really good one there. Was that not pretty much what Strachan said was his reason for keeping him out? ...and got blasted for it. He probably did get some off the ball coaching at school that consisted of "get intae thum" and "chase the baw oli for fuwk sake". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, thewelk said: Was that not pretty much what Strachan said was his reason for keeping him out? ...and got blasted for it. He probably did get some off the ball coaching at school that consisted of "get intae thum" and "chase the baw oli for fuwk sake". Given that he went to school in Melton Mowbray I doubt it very much. It doesn't say much for Nottingam Forest though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 17 minutes ago, thewelk said: Was that not pretty much what Strachan said was his reason for keeping him out? ...and got blasted for it. Nope, it wasn't. Strachan said he wanted to play experienced players. You also have to factor in that Leipzig are performing well, so clearly are doing the right thing for their side. Where as Strachan's Scotland are performing totally pish and got humped 3-0 in the game Strachan dropped Burke from the squad for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 49 minutes ago, Parklife said: got humped 3-0 in the game Strachan dropped Burke from the squad for. I love the idea that Oli Burke would have turned that game around.. "if only he'd played, we'd have won" kinda thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, andyD said: I love the idea that Oli Burke would have turned that game around.. "if only he'd played, we'd have won" kinda thing. It's more symbolic of Strachan's mis management. Strange statement, picking a weakened side and then afterwards claiming we did well and were unlucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 12 minutes ago, andyD said: I love the idea that Oli Burke would have turned that game around.. "if only he'd played, we'd have won" kinda thing. Who's doing that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 hour ago, ProudScot said: It's more symbolic of Strachan's mis management. Strange statement, picking a weakened side and then afterwards claiming we did well and were unlucky. A weakened side? There were only 3 changes. Tierney in for Robertson. Nothing in it really. McArthur for Burke. Wanted to pack the midfield to try and limit them cos we were away. Snodgrass and Ritchie were in good club form and Burke was barely playing after his move. Fletcher for Martin. Fletch was in better form at the time as I recall. We can probably all agree that we needed more pace on wings, and we'd all liked to have seen Burke given the chance to just run at people. But it's hard to argue that we weakened the side by not throwing in an unknown quantity who did alright in the English championship for half a season. We all want Burke to do well and be a top player for us, but he's a very inexperienced player who hasn't played much football. 8 minutes again Bayern Munich is great for the lad, but as the Liepzig guys have said, he's got a lot of learning still to do. We need to keep our expectation in check a little bit. Personally, I sighed at the starting line up when it was announced, but I get why he went with what he did. And it's really easy to just sit here now going "aye, 3-0, doesn't know what he's doing" but despite them being better than us we did actually make enough chances to win the game.. and Fletch really was fouled in the build up to their first and i wont ever understand how it wasn't given. I think some thought Slovakia weren't as good as they are and so are more aggrieved than they really have a right to be that we lost. But the fact remains that it's tight group, we're not out of it and we've got players available for the upcoming games who didn't exist for the last qualifiers (Morrison, Mulgrew, Armstrong, Brown, Philips, Fraser). My belief we could qualify took a knock, that's for sure, but my hope hasn't been extinguished yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 4 minutes ago, andyD said: A weakened side? There were only 3 changes. Tierney in for Robertson. Nothing in it really. McArthur for Burke. Wanted to pack the midfield to try and limit them cos we were away. Snodgrass and Ritchie were in good club form and Burke was barely playing after his move. Fletcher for Martin. Fletch was in better form at the time as I recall. We can probably all agree that we needed more pace on wings, and we'd all liked to have seen Burke given the chance to just run at people. But it's hard to argue that we weakened the side by not throwing in an unknown quantity who did alright in the English championship for half a season. We all want Burke to do well and be a top player for us, but he's a very inexperienced player who hasn't played much football. 8 minutes again Bayern Munich is great for the lad, but as the Liepzig guys have said, he's got a lot of learning still to do. We need to keep our expectation in check a little bit. Personally, I sighed at the starting line up when it was announced, but I get why he went with what he did. And it's really easy to just sit here now going "aye, 3-0, doesn't know what he's doing" but despite them being better than us we did actually make enough chances to win the game.. and Fletch really was fouled in the build up to their first and i wont ever understand how it wasn't given. I think some thought Slovakia weren't as good as they are and so are more aggrieved than they really have a right to be that we lost. But the fact remains that it's tight group, we're not out of it and we've got players available for the upcoming games who didn't exist for the last qualifiers (Morrison, Mulgrew, Armstrong, Brown, Philips, Fraser). My belief we could qualify took a knock, that's for sure, but my hope hasn't been extinguished yet. I bet you clapped and cheered in Faro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisEDI Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 " limit them cos we were away " this is why we are never going to qualify Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartanmartin Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 cannae beat the fun police. some people support Scotland, want them to do well and win. and some people don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordyA88 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, andyD said: A weakened side? There were only 3 changes. Tierney in for Robertson. Nothing in it really. McArthur for Burke. Wanted to pack the midfield to try and limit them cos we were away. Snodgrass and Ritchie were in good club form and Burke was barely playing after his move. Fletcher for Martin. Fletch was in better form at the time as I recall. We can probably all agree that we needed more pace on wings, and we'd all liked to have seen Burke given the chance to just run at people. But it's hard to argue that we weakened the side by not throwing in an unknown quantity who did alright in the English championship for half a season. We all want Burke to do well and be a top player for us, but he's a very inexperienced player who hasn't played much football. 8 minutes again Bayern Munich is great for the lad, but as the Liepzig guys have said, he's got a lot of learning still to do. We need to keep our expectation in check a little bit. Personally, I sighed at the starting line up when it was announced, but I get why he went with what he did. And it's really easy to just sit here now going "aye, 3-0, doesn't know what he's doing" but despite them being better than us we did actually make enough chances to win the game.. and Fletch really was fouled in the build up to their first and i wont ever understand how it wasn't given. I think some thought Slovakia weren't as good as they are and so are more aggrieved than they really have a right to be that we lost. But the fact remains that it's tight group, we're not out of it and we've got players available for the upcoming games who didn't exist for the last qualifiers (Morrison, Mulgrew, Armstrong, Brown, Philips, Fraser). My belief we could qualify took a knock, that's for sure, but my hope hasn't been extinguished yet. I don't understand this thinking at all. Strachan and the management team totally ####ed up the selection. Anyone watching the game could see after 5 minutes that Slovakia were dreadful at the back and slower than a week in the jail. So we played a team with absolutely no pace to try and do what exactly? That is what Strachan is at fault for. His constant baffling squad and team selections and leaving Burke out of the team and squad that night totally summed him up for. Clueless And I blame Strachan and Mghee for not watching Slovakia properly and identifying that they were slow at the back. Edited January 30, 2017 by GordyA88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rude Gullit Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 8 hours ago, thewelk said: Was that not pretty much what Strachan said was his reason for keeping him out? ...and got blasted for it. He probably did get some off the ball coaching at school that consisted of "get intae thum" and "chase the baw oli for fuwk sake". Strachan's up wasn't in not playing Burke, it was in dropping him out of the squad altogether. No need to do that - just let him sit on the bench with the rest of the squad. Terrible man management imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossman4 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 2 hours ago, GordyA88 said: I don't understand this thinking at all. Strachan and the management team totally ####ed up the selection. Anyone watching the game could see after 5 minutes that Slovakia were dreadful at the back and slower than a week in the jail. So we played a team with absolutely no pace to try and do what exactly? That is what Strachan is at fault for. His constant baffling squad and team selections and leaving Burke out of the team and squad that night totally summed him up for. Clueless And I blame Strachan and Mghee for not watching Slovakia properly and identifying that they were slow at the back. The other issue with Strachan and McGhee for Slovakia was ingnoring that exact advice which was given to them by Steven Pressley who had watched their game on the Saturday. I actually think he was then on Radio Scotland on the Sunday saying exactly that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, bossman4 said: The other issue with Strachan and McGhee for Slovakia was ingnoring that exact advice which was given to them by Steven Pressley who had watched their game on the Saturday. I actually think he was then on Radio Scotland on the Sunday saying exactly that. Yeah, but it was Elvis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossman4 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 29 minutes ago, fringo said: Yeah, but it was Elvis. I know, but it makes it even worse when even that buffoon could see it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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