andymac Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: I'm not condoning the booing of Wallace or any other players, just don't see the point of getting all bothered about it, some fans are idiots Perhaps pointing out that they are idiots might make them think twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stactuso85 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 6 minutes ago, Debian said: Cool. So condemn the Wallace boos and Wallace is a Grass pish. Floor is yours.... I see the problem, you got a bit overheated before you read my post and thought I was condoning booing Lee Wallace. I wasn't and I don't. I was gently making fun of people apparently being shocked by teams being bood off at HT or FT after a poor performance. Not saying I do it but it's been going on for decades. As for Lee Wallace, it was a small minority and I disavow, ok? But that doesn't change the fact that some "Rangers fans" who hate Scotland anyway are looking for reasons to be offended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishBoy Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Don’t see the problem with booing the team off at FT after what was a pretty poor performance. I also think there's an element of frustration of just wanting to qualify for a tournament, especially after watching all ‘home nations’ compete at one in the summer. I found it more bizarre that some stayed behind to applaud the players off the park at FT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, stactuso85 said: As for Lee Wallace, it was a small minority and I disavow, ok? But that doesn't change the fact that some "Rangers fans" who hate Scotland anyway are looking for reasons to be offended. It's a 2 way thing. There's an element of the Rangers support that hate the national team and "the tartan army", but then some of this pish from Scotland fans not only gives them an excuse, it makes us look like the ones with the problem. I can live with cheering that bit louder for players from your own club, I've been guilty of that myself, but booing our own players because of their club is a poor show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angusfifer Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, AmishBoy said: Don’t see the problem with booing the team off at FT after what was a pretty poor performance. I also think there's an element of frustration of just wanting to qualify for a tournament, especially after watching all ‘home nations’ compete at one in the summer. I found it more bizarre that some stayed behind to applaud the players off the park at FT. Both the booing at full-time and the applauding were probably understandable. This might seem like a contradiction but while acknowledging it was a disappointing performance and outcome, the level of acrimony by a few people round about me went way over the top, almost from the first whistle. We all deal with frustration in different ways but I remain convinced that the players respond to encouragement rather than abuse (even when it's directed at the manager). It got to the stage that I was more pissed off at the levels of abuse than the performance on the park. A lot of it is human nature but I think the fact that it started so early in the game in particular kind of pissed me off... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 20 minutes ago, Ak91 said: Few Rangers haters in here the night. Leave it to the club forums, you're an embarrassment. There is a minority on both sides but on twitter last night it would appear that the amount of vocal Rangers fans that hate Scotland far exceeds any vocal anti Rangers feeling from the Scotland support and by some way. As alluded to earlier, most of them are looking for any reason to justify their hatred and the morons that booed Lee Wallace last night gave them that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishBoy Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, Angusfifer said: Both the booing at full-time and the applauding were probably understandable. This might seem like a contradiction but while acknowledging it was a disappointing performance and outcome, the level of acrimony by a few people round about me went way over the top, almost from the first whistle. We all deal with frustration in different ways but I remain convinced that the players respond to encouragement rather than abuse (even when it's directed at the manager). It got to the stage that I was more pissed off at the levels of abuse than the performance on the park. A lot of it is human nature but I think the fact that it started so early in the game in particular kind of pissed me off... Aye, I think frustration is the key word here. We all want to see the team do well & ultimately qualify for a tournament, however just the second game in and understandably, it looks as if that could be another 2yrs down the swanny. I hope we can recover these points on Tuesday but I'm not convinced we will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 7 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: There is a minority on both sides but on twitter last night it would appear that the amount of vocal Rangers fans that hate Scotland far exceeds any vocal anti Rangers feeling from the Scotland support and by some way. As alluded to earlier, most of them are looking for any reason to justify their hatred and the morons that booed Lee Wallace last night gave them that. Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deso1 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Sorry, anyone who pays their money is entitled to boo if they want. Don't know about the Lee Wallace stuff, but every player in a blue shirt, the coaching staff, the sfa, the stadium staff (toilets in west stand blacked out etc), and the dj/entertainment............They all deserved booing for the total embarrassment that is Scotlands national team/sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ak91 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 18 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: There is a minority on both sides but on twitter last night it would appear that the amount of vocal Rangers fans that hate Scotland far exceeds any vocal anti Rangers feeling from the Scotland support and by some way. As alluded to earlier, most of them are looking for any reason to justify their hatred and the morons that booed Lee Wallace last night gave them that. I wouldn't disagree with that however what I would say is there is a lot of anti Rangers comments popping up in this forum which is also used by Rangers fans wanting to support both Rangers and Scotland. Have no problem if the guys who are doing that want to retaliate on twitter but not on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deso1 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 51 minutes ago, sbcmfc said: It's a 2 way thing. There's an element of the Rangers support that hate the national team and "the tartan army", but then some of this pish from Scotland fans not only gives them an excuse, it makes us look like the ones with the problem. I can live with cheering that bit louder for players from your own club, I've been guilty of that myself, but booing our own players because of their club is a poor show. Didn't notice the lee Wallace stuff..... but as a Scottish football fan and a rangers fan (who supports celtic in every European game etc, and cheered scott brown louder than most in a Scotland jersey)........ I have noticed a lot of anti rangers feeling at the games and on here(certainly never noticed it 10yrs ago) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armitage Shanks Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 hour ago, andymac said: So why boo the player? No idea no way would I boo one of my players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armitage Shanks Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Debian said: Deserves to be booed aye. Bolt ya waster. Yer as well following that team from London. Read my first post on this subject. i wouldn't boo him and wouldn't condone anyone booing him. It's a total non story compared to what Celtic players and fans had to put up with from the old bigots in the Scotland support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armitage Shanks Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 29 minutes ago, Ak91 said: I wouldn't disagree with that however what I would say is there is a lot of anti Rangers comments popping up in this forum which is also used by Rangers fans wanting to support both Rangers and Scotland. Have no problem if the guys who are doing that want to retaliate on twitter but not on here. No one should be tarred at a Scotland game. But fact is your old club cheated and haven't shown any remorse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 (edited) 11 minutes ago, deso1 said: Didn't notice the lee Wallace stuff..... but as a Scottish football fan and a rangers fan (who supports celtic in every European game etc, and cheered scott brown louder than most in a Scotland jersey)........ I have noticed a lot of anti rangers feeling at the games and on here(certainly never noticed it 10yrs ago) Ying goes with the Yang The increased hostility from Rangers fans leads to increased ill feeling from Scotland fans It is what most of these bams want - they would rather Rangers fans gave their support to Northern Ireland There was a day when the element within the Celtic support that supported Eire made Rangers fans all the more determined to support Scotland The referendum and anti SFA feeling would appear to have changed that dramatically Edited October 9, 2016 by Ally Bongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ak91 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 7 minutes ago, Armitage Shanks said: No one should be tarred at a Scotland game. But fact is your old club cheated and haven't shown any remorse. Absolutely nothing to do with the Scotland national team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deso1 Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 Sorry but if your wearing a Scotland top/at a Scotland match, then your a Scotland fan..............Club allegiances should have nothing to do with it.Simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armitage Shanks Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 6 minutes ago, Ak91 said: Absolutely nothing to do with the Scotland national team. Agreed but still some resentment to what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batzek-osemba Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 16 hours ago, KirkieRobRoy said: If you can't shout anything positive about your team, just stay quiet. Its a football team...we are not talking of a recently deceased during a funeral service. I think all emtions and reactions should be ok. If you care and if you re upset why not boo after a match. Not during and not directed at specific players. But generally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 16 hours ago, EddardStark said: Following Scotland is becoming unpleasant. Given who your club side is i find that hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 18 hours ago, kmcca5 said: It's another reason we are shite. Booing at half time when I don't think Scotland had played that badly was a just dumb. The crowd should be getting behind the team but every shot of the crowd was folk in Scotland tops with folded arms. From the TV the crowd was quiet most of the game unless they were getting at the Scotland players. Not sure how we fix that. Someone who watched the game on the Tv telling folk who actually were at the game how to be better supporters. Belting. 18 hours ago, Batzek-osemba said: If you cheer and applaud them off, they probably think you are appreciating their Performance. Nothing wrong in booing and showing a football team that you are not just a bunch of "we ll come anyway, no matter what happens" fans who can be fed shit football for years now. 15 hours ago, jamesmcfaddenkingofkings said: £30-40 for a ticket to watch that sh**e then imo anyone is perfectly entitled to boo Yup and yup. That was utter excrement and they were soundly booed by me. If i've been utterly shite at my job then i'll expect folk to let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 Scotland fans, best in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelk Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, Alan said: Scotland fans, best in the world. Do you really believe that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 15 minutes ago, Alan said: Scotland fans, best in the world. I don't really give a shite about being "the best fans in the world" to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mod11 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 11 hours ago, Debian said: Take it to pm mate. I'll discuss it with ye in Bratislava the morra ? Cool it, PS. You of all people know how this works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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