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He must be at it. I've never not seen a few in the away section with their arms outstretched.

So you are saying the Northern Irish supporters were singing up to their knees in f***** blood at an international? Surely you've misheard. I cannot see that being the case.

I'm not sure football matches are for you if your offended by any of that.

This will be irony from me after some of the things I’ve said about Clarke but people upset at that are over reacting. it was probably a blessing the way that panned out because there will be major lessons to learn in time for the tournament. I think we can look at the positives from tonight and take that forward.

Do UEFA hold tickets back to allow fans of play off winners to get some tickets? I’m in Cologne for a couple of days either side of our game against Switzerland and fancy going to Dortmund to watch Turkey vs Greece (potentially) so hoping some tickets have been held back for play off winners.

I can see both points of view on posted above. Not sure if we will get the benefit of this but stuck in an application for the Scotland games anyway. Might just be a load of tickets floating about accross every game still and this is their last chance of shifting them.

I've had tickets to the last 2 europa league finals from 2nd ballots so i've had a bit off success in this scenario. As others have said, be on the ball over the next week or 2 and quick to jump on any emails that come through.

Confirmed as out tomorrow.

Was greizzmann offside for that last goal? Kelly literally has to run round him lying on the goal line when the shot is hit.

It looks to me as if Pot 3 is harder than pot 2, so we might want to throw the last game for a potentially easier draw. In my opinion pot 2 will be: Hungary, Denmark, Albania, Turkey, Switzerland and Austria (if we lose any of our next 2 games). pot 3 will be: Us (if we lose 1 of next 2), Holland, Serbia, Italy, Croatia and Czech Republic. I am now hoping we do end up in pot 3 as I'd fancy our chances against most of the pot 3 teams.

Out for months apparently so will be touch and go for the Euros.

The truth is England and especially Bellingham are top tier and if we use that as motivation to improve it will do us the world of good. I think it was a friendly and result that came at the right time for us, before the final three games in the group, euros, and Nations League A games. we should take a lot from that tonight.

Austria winning away to Sweden was bad for our chances of getting pot 2, if we were to end up losing away to Spain. we need to hope that we get to 19 points now and they lose to Belgium.

I think the top seeds are Germany + 5 best top spot qualifiers. 2nd seeds are remaining 5 top spot qualifiers, + best 2nd placed qualifier. Therefore, if we don’t win the group we need to hope we are best 2nd place. At this point I think 18 points probably gets you close to that. We are hoping Holland, and Italy lose at least 1 game between now and the end as I think the rest (Austria/Belgium, Slovakia, Finland, and Croatia) will take care of itself as there will be points dropped throughout the course of qualification by these countries.

What is certainly going to be different is the pressure aspect. Both previous visits were pressure games and we couldn't cope. This time we could be going there having already qualified, and the only pressure is trying to get as much points on the board to be pot 1 or pot 2. Georgia were miles off it on Tuesday but they are a far better team than they showed and it will be difficult away from home against them. It will be a good test for us.

Yeah as mentioned above, it is very possible we could have qualification confirmed in the dying minutes of injury time in our friendly vs England on 12th September. We need to beat Cyprus and hope Spain beat Georgia on the 8th September. Then while we are playing v England hope that Norway and Georgia draw.

Was this not meant to be free?

We weren’t great but I disagree when you say it’s the least of our problems. You can’t afford to give up possession as much as he did particularly in the first half. If we want to go to Norway and Georgia and look for a win then we need to be able to relieve pressure by going back to the goal keeper and not expect it to be lumped straight to the opposition. Some of his kicking was landing in our own third and putting us under real pressure. He just needs to take a touch and wait for some movement from our defenders.

Ramsey was decent. said after the Denmark game at hampden that if we want to move forward as a footballing nation, we need to get a goal keeper that can keep possession. Gordon must have gave the ball away about 30 times under no real pressure.

Have we not just won something like 6 competitive games in a row at Hampden, why would we want to make a change on a run like this? edit: Ukraine in June sandwiched in between 3 wins in wc qualifiers and 3 wins in the nations league.

The bigger nations are using the nations league to experiment somewhat ahead of the World Cup. i would much rather be Holland than England or France right enough.

I just meant the remaining 3 runners up in the B groups (there is 4 but in my example I have assumed the best runner up has qualified through the groups as they are a pot 2 team). You could be right on group D winners, I think we are saying the same thing apart from this.

It is quite confusing because the Euro qualifying is still to take place and until it does, we don't know who is going to need a play off. For ease of thinking lets assume the following qualify through the actual qualification groups: Germany (Host Nation) Other 15 A Group Participants (In pot 1 and 2) 5 Group B Participants (Group Winners and Best Runner Up (all in pot 2). This means the 12 play off positions would be taken by the following: 3 No 2nd placed finishers from Nations League B Groups 4 No 3rd placed finishers from Nations League B Groups 1 No Best 4th Placed finisher 4 No Winners of Nations League C Groups. This is my understanding of how it would work. Obviously not everyone in pot 1 and 2 will qualify through the qualification groups but who ever doesn't would take a play off spot (there wont be many who don't qualify through the groups).

I agree, think we must do it ourselves as can’t see Armenia winning or Sweden not winning. if we end up in pot 2 we could get a group of… poland scotland armenia faroes gibraltar Sam marino

France heading for pot 2 aswell here. It would improve our chances of qualification tenfold if we end up in this pot.