Pool Q Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) A lot of paper talk about Berra wanting to move back to Scotland (he has a young family living here or something) and Hearts looking to sign him. Can't see us getting anywhere near his wages, and certainly can't afford any fee. Wouldn't be surprised if he ended up along the M8. Muirhead linked with MK Dons over past few days, and rumours a couple of English Championship sides interested in Kitchen. Edited January 16, 2017 by Pool Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 15 minutes ago, Pool Q said: A lot of paper talk about Berra wanting to move back to Scotland (he has a young family living here or something) and Hearts looking to sign him. Can't see us getting anywhere near his wages, and certainly can't afford any fee. Wouldn't be surprised if he ended up along the M8. Muirhead linked with MK Dons over past few days, and rumours a couple of English Championship sides interested in Kitchen. I'd take him in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefaetheferry Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: The Joes these days has plenty of Killie fans in it. A lot of my mates who i go to games with went there. My mum taught there for years too and said a lot of her classes had more Killie fans than Celtic. That was in 90s right enough. Glad to hear it ! I was 79-85 so not much of an attraction in those years ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 51 minutes ago, SMcoolJ said: Actually, if Forrest is being rated at £3-4m then Hayes would be somewhere around £30-£40m. However, on the basis I think Forrest is worth about £200k, I'm happy with my estimation of Hayes being worth £2m. You are worth what others are willing to pay and i'd be amazed if you get anything near £2m for Hayes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 31 minutes ago, Fairbairn said: I'd take him in a heartbeat. As would 11 out of 12 sides in the SPFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, killiefaetheferry said: Glad to hear it ! I was 79-85 so not much of an attraction in those years ! i went to St Andrews in Saltcoats where it was about 85% Tims, 10% Killie and a couple of Huns/Aberdeen fans. Few decent players came out that school before and after the merger right enough. Bobby Lennox, Roy Aitken, Steve Clarke. Edited January 16, 2017 by Squirrelhumper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Pool Q said: A lot of paper talk about Berra wanting to move back to Scotland (he has a young family living here or something) and Hearts looking to sign him. Can't see us getting anywhere near his wages, and certainly can't afford any fee. Wouldn't be surprised if he ended up along the M8. Muirhead linked with MK Dons over past few days, and rumours a couple of English Championship sides interested in Kitchen. What's up with Muirhead? Dropped on his heid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 1 hour ago, SMcoolJ said: Actually, if Forrest is being rated at £3-4m then Hayes would be somewhere around £30-£40m. However, on the basis I think Forrest is worth about £200k, I'm happy with my estimation of Hayes being worth £2m. Hayes is our most creative and most valuable player. Losing him would be a disaster for us so anyone who wants him will need to fork out £1.5 - £2m IMO. He's one of the best players in this league so expecting that level for him isn't overestimating his value to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMcoolJ Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: You are worth what others are willing to pay and i'd be amazed if you get anything near £2m for Hayes. I slightly disagree. He's worth what others are prepared to pay but also what he is worth to us. He's our best player (maybe not saying much) but our chance of "success" and contribution to further financial gain (cups, season ticket sales, final league position, Europe etc) is severely weakened by him leaving. Call it opportunity cost if you want. Edited January 16, 2017 by SMcoolJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMcoolJ Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Fairbairn said: I'd take him in a heartbeat. Me too. Will be a good spfl player. You need him more than us though!! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, SMcoolJ said: I slightly disagree. He's worth what others are prepared to pay but also what he is worth to us. He's our best player (maybe not saying much) but our chance of "success" and contribution to further financial gain (cups, season ticket sales, final league position, Europe etc) is severely weakened by him leaving. Call it opportunity cost if you want. Agreed with that. I'm not disputing that, what i said was i don't think anyone will bid £2m and therefore i doubt Aberdeen will need to consider selling him. I may be totally wrong and you get a massive bid for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Q Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 37 minutes ago, adamntg said: What's up with Muirhead? Dropped on his heid? I hope we keep him. The connection is there with Neilson I suppose. and the rumour has been doing the rounds for a couple of weeks now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMcoolJ Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 12 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: Agreed with that. I'm not disputing that, what i said was i don't think anyone will bid £2m and therefore i doubt Aberdeen will need to consider selling him. I may be totally wrong and you get a massive bid for him. I agree, I'm not convinced anyone will bid £2m either, given we are just a sh1tty spfl club. However, we'd be mad to let him go for less because it would take at least that to repair the damage it will cause. He's the Crown Jewels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, SMcoolJ said: I agree, I'm not convinced anyone will bid £2m either, given we are just a sh1tty spfl club. However, we'd be mad to let him go for less because it would take at least that to repair the damage it will cause. He's the Crown Jewels. Stranger things have happened, a few SPFL clubs have got £2m+ from down south before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, SMcoolJ said: I agree, I'm not convinced anyone will bid £2m either, given we are just a sh1tty spfl club. However, we'd be mad to let him go for less because it would take at least that to repair the damage it will cause. He's the Crown Jewels. I go back to the SAM programme at Salford University which calculates a player's 'true' worth to a team. I agree completely that this can't be used as a starting point for every transfer negotiation, but I suspect strongly that Hayes would come out as Aberdeen's most 'valuable' player and as such we'd be insane to allow him to leave for pennies. He's under contract, and it should be up to any buying club that wants him to make us a ridiculous offer that we can't refuse. But as pointed out, there's no club worse than Aberdeen at hard bargaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart_Aberdeen Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Wes Burns is away back to Bristol City so might mean Hayes is more likely to be staying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 45 minutes ago, Rossy said: I go back to the SAM programme at Salford University which calculates a player's 'true' worth to a team. I agree completely that this can't be used as a starting point for every transfer negotiation, but I suspect strongly that Hayes would come out as Aberdeen's most 'valuable' player and as such we'd be insane to allow him to leave for pennies. He's under contract, and it should be up to any buying club that wants him to make us a ridiculous offer that we can't refuse. But as pointed out, there's no club worse than Aberdeen at hard bargaining. I dunno, Michael Johnston has mastered the art of sh1te transfer negotiations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Squirrelhumper said: Stranger things have happened, a few SPFL clubs have got £2m+ from down south before. Not for 29 year olds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 3 hours ago, Rossy said: But as pointed out, there's no club worse than Aberdeen at hard bargaining. Think that award goes to Dundee, we got £4.80 for Stewart and Hemmings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 2 hours ago, kumnio said: Think that award goes to Dundee, we got £4.80 for Stewart and Hemmings. I'd forgotten about them. Good point...you win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euan2020 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, adamntg said: Not for 29 year olds. Tore Andre Flo 29 ? Paul Gascoigne 31 ? Edited January 16, 2017 by euan2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Rossy said: I'd forgotten about them. Good point...you win You're not the only one. I think Hemmings has done okay at Oxford but I don't think Stewart has featured much for Birmingham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu101 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 30 minutes ago, Hertsscot said: You're not the only one. I think Hemmings has done okay at Oxford but I don't think Stewart has featured much for Birmingham. Hemmings has done well. Hatrick last week and clubs top scorer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euan2020 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 9 hours ago, adamntg said: Not for 29 year olds. Paulo Di Canio was another 1 at 29 - 4,5 Million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, euan2020 said: Tore Andre Flo 29 ? Paul Gascoigne 31 ? Hayes isn't even close to being half the player those two were. Flo was an overpriced flop but he had done plenty before signing with Rangers. Just wasn't worth £12m. Edited January 17, 2017 by Squirrelhumper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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