phart Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Some self awareness https://theweek.com/articles/887283/america-guilty-everything-accuse-iran-doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WCTA Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) There’s a guy running for the Democratic nomination for President this year who wears a different tartan tie each day. A lot of news channels are running stories on it. His name is Tom Steyer. He says he has Murray in his family and that he wears a Scottish tie because “Each day you gotta be ready for the fight” 😄 That stupid fucking cow of a Daughter of John McCain often tweets about it. Often pulling him up for wearing ‘dumb Christmas ties.’ The morons here think every “plaaaaaad” pattern is Christmas. 😏 Edited January 6, 2020 by WCTA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Trump has really fucked up here. This murdered general is going to achieve more in death than he could ever have dreamed of in the rest of his life had he lived to a ripe old age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, thplinth said: Trump has really fucked up here. This murdered general is going to achieve more in death than he could ever have dreamed of in the rest of his life had he lived to a ripe old age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I can't see a reference to a Corbett Report without thinking of Rab Corbett and the Paisley Tapes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL6MIwLIJ_M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I see Iranian officials have put out a list of all properties Trumps own, which certainly could be construed as a threat. Also military say they are pulling out of Iraq to respect their soveriegnty, wonder if an Iran attack will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 21 minutes ago, phart said: I see Iranian officials have put out a list of all properties Trumps own, which certainly could be construed as a threat. Also military say they are pulling out of Iraq to respect their soveriegnty, wonder if an Iran attack will happen. Probably get more of a reaction if they attacked a Trump Tower than US Embassy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Jim Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, phart said: I see Iranian officials have put out a list of all properties Trumps own, which certainly could be construed as a threat. Also military say they are pulling out of Iraq to respect their soveriegnty, wonder if an Iran attack will happen. Ayrshire & Aberdeenshire under threat then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Beem Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 hours ago, aaid said: Probably get more of a reaction if they attacked a Trump Tower than US Embassy. Especially if they timed it for Brunch. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCTA Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Grim Jim said: Ayrshire & Aberdeenshire under threat then? Ayrshire locals are hoping so. Just to slap some value on their hoose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 2 hours ago, phart said: I see Iranian officials have put out a list of all properties Trumps own, which certainly could be construed as a threat. Also military say they are pulling out of Iraq to respect their soveriegnty, wonder if an Iran attack will happen. It is almost certain that Iran will retaliate IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 The funeral procession. seems like he was a charles de gaulle figure across there. Malaysia has called for all Muslim countries to create some sort of defence pact. . seems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Trump knows exactly what he has done. He wants to create mayhem in the middle east. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) 39 minutes ago, phart said: The funeral procession. seems like he was a charles de gaulle figure across there. He was a very highly regarded man. Hugely respected as a soldier and commander. This is the guy who really beat ISIS (with Russian air support) apparently. This is what makes Trump's actions so obscene. Claiming he beat ISIS whilst killing the guy who really did by luring him out on a fake peace mission orchestrated personally by Trump, the big tough guy who used bonespurs to avoid doing his military service. Trump's Vietnam bone spur diagnosis made as 'favor' to father: report So you have this unbelievable juxtaposition of Trump and Soleimani. It has unified Iran and Iraq and both together but also the wider muslim world. To call this a strategic blunder does not come close to doing it justice. Trump has really made a massive howler here (not to mention the arsehole that probably talked him into it) and it is going to be a pivotal point in the region's history. I even read that Netanyahu is saying this was America alone... there is loyalty for you. What a fuck up from the Cheeto in Chief. To threaten to bomb historical sites and crass stuff about paying for the airbase or he'll whack massive sanctions on them like never before (500,000 Iraqi kids died during the sanctions last time). He is so out of touch it is shocking... Edited January 7, 2020 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 4D chess Shirley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, thplinth said: He was a very highly regarded man. Hugely respected as a soldier and commander. This is the guy who really beat ISIS (with Russian air support) apparently. This is what makes Trump's actions so obscene. Claiming he beat ISIS whilst killing the guy who really did by luring him out on a fake peace mission orchestrated personally by Trump, the big tough guy who used bonespurs to avoid doing his military service. Trump's Vietnam bone spur diagnosis made as 'favor' to father: report So you have this unbelievable juxtaposition of Trump and Soleimani. It has unified Iran and Iraq and both together but also the wider muslim world. To call this a strategic blunder does not come close to doing it justice. Trump has really made a massive howler here (not to mention the arsehole that probably talked him into it) and it is going to be a pivotal point in the region's history. I even read that Netanyahu is saying this was America alone... there is loyalty for you. What a fuck up from the Cheeto in Chief. To threaten to bomb historical sites and crass stuff about paying for the airbase or he'll whack massive sanctions on them like never before (500,000 Iraqi kids died during the sanctions last time). He is so out of touch it is shocking... Plus Iran are playing a PR game as well, everyone from Hezzbollah etc saying we have no beef with American people it's Trump. Showing his resorts. Also check this out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Beem Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, thplinth said: He was a very highly regarded man. Hugely respected as a soldier and commander. This is the guy who really beat ISIS (with Russian air support) apparently. This is what makes Trump's actions so obscene. Claiming he beat ISIS whilst killing the guy who really did by luring him out on a fake peace mission orchestrated personally by Trump, the big tough guy who used bonespurs to avoid doing his military service. Trump's Vietnam bone spur diagnosis made as 'favor' to father: report So you have this unbelievable juxtaposition of Trump and Soleimani. It has unified Iran and Iraq and both together but also the wider muslim world. To call this a strategic blunder does not come close to doing it justice. Trump has really made a massive howler here (not to mention the arsehole that probably talked him into it) and it is going to be a pivotal point in the region's history. I even read that Netanyahu is saying this was America alone... there is loyalty for you. What a fuck up from the Cheeto in Chief. To threaten to bomb historical sites and crass stuff about paying for the airbase or he'll whack massive sanctions on them like never before (500,000 Iraqi kids died during the sanctions last time). He is so out of touch it is shocking... I know its a serious topic............but ‘Cheeto in Chief’ 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThistleWhistle Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Eisegerwind said: 4D chess Shirley. Worryingly though one of the main players has just rolled a dice, clippity clopped the horsey piece three steps forward and one up before shouting 'Hiho Silver!' then fucked off play golf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, ThistleWhistle said: Worryingly though one of the main players has just rolled a dice, clippity clopped the horsey piece three steps forward and one up before shouting 'Hiho Silver!' then fucked off play golf. 😂😂 Horsey piece .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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aaid Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Different take from the United Services Institute, not exactly known as being a bunch of peaceniks. There was someone from them on Politics Live earlier today - not the author of this piece - and he completely dismantled any semblance of a case that the USA had any form of legal defence for the action. https://rusi.org/commentary/death-soleimani-brings-uncertainty-violence-and-opportunity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ally Bongo Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 It seems the "We are going to have to go to war with Iran at sometime" lobby have won the day. That is the only reasoning i can see - and i dont get paid to write for the media Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I can see all these pissed off ME countries turning to Russia now as a partner and regional leader. The US have destroyed themselves credibility wise. Israel might seek to distance itself but they (the ME public) are not buying it (not even a little bit). What a colossal fuck up for both of them. Today was the end of the 3 day mourning period in Iran / Iraq and it is just the start of Trump's election year... Trump has such a big ego (even under normal circumstances) this could really prove to be a powder keg situation building up. He cant ever admit he was wrong, he always doubles down... If Iran even slightly humiliates him (and they will) he will go full radge like a dummy spitting baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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