wanderer Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 French media reporting Fletcher has passed his medical to join Marseille Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girvanTA Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Mo Johnston's level skyrocketed when he played there. Fletcher is a terrific player, albeit not a prolific goal scorer. He'd do well in any league provided a manager knew how to play him. Terrific is not a word that I would use to describe him, decent yes - terrific no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Sounds like Michael O'Halloran to Rangers is back on. Time to re-open the O'Halloran for Scotland thread?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Terrific is not a word that I would use to describe him, decent yes - terrific no Well, terrific by Scottish standards and probably the most likely not to look out of place amongst really good players by other nations standards. I think he'll do well in France and Scotland will see the benefit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Fletcher and Rhodes deals have just went through Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Matt Phillips to West Brom Ryan Gauld on loan to Newcastle Is that confirmed (I'm catching up on news) ? Interesting if it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zahana-oni Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Dom Hyam has signed on loan for Dagenham Gary Mackenzie on loan to Notts County Chris maguire signed to Oxford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girvanTA Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Well, terrific by Scottish standards and probably the most likely not to look out of place amongst really good players by other nations standards. I think he'll do well in France and Scotland will see the benefit. Hope your right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Fletcher and Rhodes deals have just went through Potentially really good moves for both of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyGC Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Happy for Jordan Rhodes tonight, hopefully he can now kick on at Middlesbrough and help get them promoted! Would be brilliant to see him competing in the Premier League. Good move for Steven Fletcher too, should get more game time as Marseille. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveHFC Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) Seeing one of the original hibs youngsters end up at a huge club at Marseille is impressive. Hopefully it works out for Fletcher over there. Edited February 1, 2016 by SteveHFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Dom Hyam has signed on loan for Dagenham Gary Mackenzie on loan to Notts County Chris maguire signed to Oxford Had to google all of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) Marseille currenty sitting mid table in a ridiculously tight league barring PSG. 3 champions league places up so looks like their big push. I honestly think that the ankle injury he got against Wales and subsequent injuries has majorly dented is career, probaly mentally more than anything else. Never been the same player. He was flying prior to that. Will certainly be interesting to see how this pans out. Edited February 1, 2016 by JECK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Forward-wise, Fletcher, Rhodes and Watt have all had moves to better teams than they were at. Naismith has taken a drop but should hopefully get more game time now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al1978 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Goodwillie away to Ross County. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyGC Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Just looking at Jordan Rhodes record at the moment and it's unbelievable! 116 goals in 316 games! Crazy to think he's 2nd choice striker for Scotland behind Fletcher who, at the moment really isn't impressing. Really hope he fires some in for Middlesbrough and is given a proper chance in these upcoming friendlies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossman4 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Just looking at Jordan Rhodes record at the moment and it's unbelievable! 116 goals in 316 games! Crazy to think he's 2nd choice striker for Scotland behind Fletcher who, at the moment really isn't impressing. Really hope he fires some in for Middlesbrough and is given a proper chance in these upcoming friendlies. Thing is though he's not even that. Seen a stat on Sky last night. Since the 30th August 2012 the top two scorers in the Championship are Rhodes (85 goals) and McCormack (65). In that time Rhodes has had one competitive start and McCormack can't get in a squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Just looking at Jordan Rhodes record at the moment and it's unbelievable! 116 goals in 316 games! Crazy to think he's 2nd choice striker for Scotland behind Fletcher who, at the moment really isn't impressing. Really hope he fires some in for Middlesbrough and is given a proper chance in these upcoming friendlies. I've nothing against Rhodes and if we had nine better outfield players I'm sure he'd play more. As it is, Fletcher at Marseilles seems a better option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynze Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Just looking at Jordan Rhodes record at the moment and it's unbelievable! 116 goals in 316 games! Crazy to think he's 2nd choice striker for Scotland behind Fletcher who, at the moment really isn't impressing. Really hope he fires some in for Middlesbrough and is given a proper chance in these upcoming friendlies. Pretty sure its about 50 goals more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Pretty sure its about 50 goals more than that. 181 in 337 according to wiki. A goal every 1.8 games rather than every 2.7 as stated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I'm amazed that a lower half epl has never took a punt on JR. Really strange, or maybe folk in the know don't rate him to get goals in the epl and that's swayed strachan to not pick him.Hopefully he will be up next season as Boro looking good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McToot Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I'm amazed that a lower half epl has never took a punt on JR. Really strange, or maybe folk in the know don't rate him to get goals in the epl and that's swayed strachan to not pick him.Hopefully he will be up next season as Boro looking good. It's still a £10m punt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossman4 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I'm amazed that a lower half epl has never took a punt on JR. Really strange, or maybe folk in the know don't rate him to get goals in the epl and that's swayed strachan to not pick him.Hopefully he will be up next season as Boro looking good. Heard a bit of 5live last night and they briefly spoke about that, think it was the Watford Sporting Director who was on. Was suggested it was down to the wages British players command against the foreign players more than transfer fee. Example being the lad Everton signed may well be on a lot less than what Rhodes would have been looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I'm amazed that a lower half epl has never took a punt on JR. Really strange, or maybe folk in the know don't rate him to get goals in the epl and that's swayed strachan to not pick him.Hopefully he will be up next season as Boro looking good. I don't think in general Premiership clubs take a chance on players from lower leagues. There are exceptions of course but in the main they tend to be young players - i.e. U21 - with potential that they are looking to develop. A couple of good examples would be Rickie Lambert and Jamie Vardy. Lambert played around 350 and Vardy around 250 games in the lower leagues before making their Premiership debuts and both had to promoted with their teams to get there. Once they establish themselves - assuming they do - then they seem to be accepted and don't have that much problem moving clubs. I suspect its that they have proved they can play at that level. A good example of this would be Steven Fletcher who was promoted with Burnley, then relegated and then relegated again with Wolves, and has been towards the bottom of the division with Sunderland. Despite that less than stellar record, he's considered a Premiership player and I'd imagine that he'll be back at one of the lower ranking teams next season once his contract at Sunderland expires/ Hopefully Middlesboro can go up and Rhodes can similarly establish himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 (edited) I don't think in general Premiership clubs take a chance on players from lower leagues. There are exceptions of course but in the main they tend to be young players - i.e. U21 - with potential that they are looking to develop. A couple of good examples would be Rickie Lambert and Jamie Vardy. Lambert played around 350 and Vardy around 250 games in the lower leagues before making their Premiership debuts and both had to promoted with their teams to get there. Once they establish themselves - assuming they do - then they seem to be accepted and don't have that much problem moving clubs. I suspect its that they have proved they can play at that level. A good example of this would be Steven Fletcher who was promoted with Burnley, then relegated and then relegated again with Wolves, and has been towards the bottom of the division with Sunderland. Despite that less than stellar record, he's considered a Premiership player and I'd imagine that he'll be back at one of the lower ranking teams next season once his contract at Sunderland expires/ Hopefully Middlesboro can go up and Rhodes can similarly establish himself. I seem to remember jermain beckford was a revelation in the championship for years and Moyes took a punt on him at Everton and was rarely seen again. Fletcher was taken straight from the Spl and didn't have to prove himself as such, slogging away in the championship. Probably owes Owen Coyle a lot for having a bit more knowledge on Scottish football and taking him down there. Very few have gone straight from SPL Edited February 2, 2016 by JECK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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