CovGer Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Alan Hansen - 29 David Speedie - 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeJay Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Stevie Crawford, 25 caps was plenty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Bobby Lennox - 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) Do you mean did "not" get enough caps? As how would you define "enough"? Edited September 24, 2015 by wanderer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Chris Martin has had more than enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagtag Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Hansen got 26 not 29. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgow jock Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Did get enough - Graeme Sharp Didn't get enough - Charlie Nicholas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_B81 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Garry Kenneth got more than enough caps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noctonjock Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 So did robbie stockdale and paul devlin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CovGer Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 Do you mean did "not" get enough caps? As how would you define "enough"? Yeah meant NOT enough. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CovGer Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 Hansen got 26 not 29. Well it's even more of an injustice then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_B81 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Yeah meant NOT enough. Sorry. Davie Cooper, Alan Hansen, Steve Nicol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noctonjock Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 John mcgovern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Well it's even more of an injustice then Think Hansen has nobody to blame but himself really. Yes he should have been the rock in our defense right throughout the 80's, yet seemed to be one of these guys who clearly enjoyed playing for Liverpool a lot more than showing up for Scotland (he really only showed up for the qualifiers and BIG friendlies.... and probably pushed Stein one to many times when it came to picking and choosing the games he played in, when Willie Miller and Alex McLeish were doing the business for Aberdeen in Scotland and in Europe) Guys who should have got a lot more caps should be guys like Eric Black, Peter Weir and Frank McAvennie (who only got a hand full of caps between them), plus guys like Davie Cooper and Andy Gray should have got a lot more than the 20 odd caps they got each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyDenoon Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) Think Hansen has nobody to blame but himself really. Yes he should have been the rock in our defense right throughout the 80's, yet seemed to be one of these guys who clearly enjoyed playing for Liverpool a lot more than showing up for Scotland (he really only showed up for the qualifiers and BIG friendlies.... and probably pushed Stein one to many times when it came to picking and choosing the games he played in, when Willie Miller and Alex McLeish were doing the business for Aberdeen in Scotland and in Europe) Guys who should have got a lot more caps should be guys like Eric Black, Peter Weir and Frank McAvennie (who only got a hand full of caps between them), plus guys like Davie Cooper and Andy Gray should have got a lot more than the 20 odd caps they got each. ThisHansen had the opportunity to write himself into Scottish football folklore but chose to try and dictate to the manager when he would play, then wonder why Stein had enough and left him out. Central defence more than anywhere else needs continuity and 100% commitment which we had in abundance with McLeish and Miller. Stein rightly recognised that Hansen (no matter how good he was) and his ego could not be allowed to upset that. The guys you mentioned should also have been capped way more than they were. Way more. They'd walk into the team now! And out of those never capped I still struggle to believe neither Ralph Milne nor Frank McDougall ever got a call up. Two of the best players I ever saw play. Tragic what happened to Milne and a real shame that McDougall had to hang up his boots at 29. Edited September 24, 2015 by DaveyDenoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Ian Black - 1 cap too many Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgow jock Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 2 fantastic players that I can think of that never but should have been capped many times are Bobby Russell & Andy Ritchie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Bobby Lennox - 10 I'd give a lot for a player like him in the squad now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_B81 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Billy Stark was another who should've got a cap, to be fair though there were a lot of good midfielders ahead of him at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 And out of those never capped I still struggle to believe neither Ralph Milne nor Frank McDougall ever got a call up. Two of the best players I ever saw play. Tragic what happened to Milne and a real shame that McDougall had to hang up his boots at 29. Think both had their off the field problems, and probably a element of Fergie could turn a blind eye to it at club level, but not prepared to go that far at international level. Also, like Eric Black, McDougall was apparently dogged by constant pain due to his back problems throughout his time at Aberdeen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Didn't get enough - Charlie Nicholas Nicholas completely underachieved after he left Celtic for Arsenal. Guys who should have got a lot more caps should be guys like Eric Black, Peter Weir and Frank McAvennie Eric Black was Crocker by the time he left for Metz, Weir was a good club player but no better than that to be fair. McAvennie was a fairly late developer then arsed it up himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Tony Green of Blackpool and Newcastle Utd. Got 6 caps for Scotland between 1971 and 1972. Career ended in 1973 by injury at the age of 26/27. Have heard he was a good player. Stevie Chalmers (5 caps, 3 goals) should have started up front with Denis Law more often often according to my Grandad who's adamant that Chalmers' intelligence and foresight on the field was amongst the best he's ever seen. Bobby Murdoch would have got more had it not been for repeated injuries and Jock Stein (by his own admission) thinking up "inventive ways" of withdrawing him from Scotland squads. George Connelly (2 caps) but for both confidence issues and (a then) out of control drink problem. Pre-war - Alex James of Preston and Arsenal was regarded as one of the most mesmerizing players to watch of his day. Yet he was only capped a handful of times (8 caps, 4 goals) owing to a rule which allowed an English team to pull a player out of another country's internationals. Jimmy McGrory (7 caps, 6 goals) was a victim of then anti-Catholic bias at the SFA selection panel (not my words but those of Bob Crampsey) that meant only one or two Catholics were picked at any one time but also the fact that the legendary Hughie Gallacher played in his position and Gallacher played in an arguably better league. Johnny Thomson (4 caps) we all know the tragedy that befell this legend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Billy Stark was another who should've got a cap, to be fair though there were a lot of good midfielders ahead of him at the time. That used to always strike me as a odd one, yet speaking to a lot of older Aberdeen fans, a number of them say the same things..... watch highlights on Youtube and DVD's of him playing you wonder why this guy who could boss a midfield and have a eye for goal was never called up.... but the problem was he was very hot and cold. Would turn it on in games against Rangers, Celtic and Dundee United, but had a habit of going AWOL in games against Hamilton Accies and Dumbarton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_B81 Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 That used to always strike me as a odd one, yet speaking to a lot of older Aberdeen fans, a number of them say the same things..... watch highlights on Youtube and DVD's of him playing you wonder why this guy who could boss a midfield and have a eye for goal was never called up.... but the problem was he was very hot and cold. Would turn it on in games against Rangers, Celtic and Dundee United, but had a habit of going AWOL in games against Hamilton Accies and Dumbarton. Stark, to his credit, never grumbled about not getting a call up because he acknowledged the quality of players in front of him, i.e. Bett, Hartford, Strachan, Souness, Wark etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 John McMaster Kevin McAllister John Hansen Jimmy Johnstone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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