COLT NY Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 IMHO he's a better player than Forrest Everyone's a better player than Forrest. I don't think I've ever seen a Scotland player get so many chances only to show so little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesynsicksheep Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) Everyone's a better player than Forrest. I don't think I've ever seen a Scotland player get so many chances only to show so little.Touche.Graeme Sharp or Brian McClair ? Edited September 7, 2015 by cheesynsicksheep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiler82 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Ritchie impressed me when he played at Anfield, he looked sharp and showed a good range of passing, on more than one occasion he switched play with one pass, he also put in some really dangerous crosses. IMHO he's a better player than Forrest, he's certainly showed more of a football brain than I've seen from JF. Watching Ritchie for 10mins made me angry as to why Forrest started the game - he was a passenger today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunchy Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Forrest reminds me of a headless chicken. Yes he is very quick but what does he do with the ball. He ether tries to pass to many players or runs up blind alleys and does nothing with the ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Forrest was there to give width, the problem was that he decided not to get to the touchline and kept moving inside and didnt support Hutton either. it really has to be his last game for a while. Contributed nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I can't believe that people think that Forrest is 'quick'. He isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz7 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 The only reason forrest is selected is because what i feel is WGS puts a lot of emphasis on training.now i would imagine forrest will look great in training running with the ball and no one wanting to injure a teammate but in a real international game he looks lost he doesnt have enough pace or power or football brain to trouble gd defenders..ialso for one saw tonight that the epl players,mcarthur,morrison,ritchie are miles better than celtic players.brown,mulgrew,forrest. I do feel however Griffiths should have been on as that time fletcher was through and he attempted a pass summed him up. Griffiths shoots on sight and should definitely been on. Keep the faith IF WE BEAT POLAND AND GERMANY BEAT IRELAND. We are playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenfrewBlue Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 The only reason forrest is selected is because what i feel is WGS puts a lot of emphasis on training.now i would imagine forrest will look great in training running with the ball and no one wanting to injure a teammate but in a real international game he looks lost he doesnt have enough pace or power or football brain to trouble gd defenders..ialso for one saw tonight that the epl players,mcarthur,morrison,ritchie are miles better than celtic players.brown,mulgrew,forrest. I do feel however Griffiths should have been on as that time fletcher was through and he attempted a pass summed him up. Griffiths shoots on sight and should definitely been on. Keep the faith IF WE BEAT POLAND AND GERMANY BEAT IRELAND. We are playoffs.Do you seriously think we will beat Poland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonzo Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I remember wan o his first appearances in the carling cup he spent mare time preening himself and admiring the stadium than playin fitbaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingFaddy Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I'd rather have Matt Philips. I'd rather have Gary Teale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 To be fair to Forrest, in the 1st half he made a couple of good runs. Should've been hooked long before he was though (instead of Maloney?), was anonymous in the 2nd half. How Forrest stayed in so long, and Fletcher got 90 minutes when Anya, Naismith and Griffiths were on the bench is beyond me. I thought Matt Phillips (and Chris Martin) made an impact when they came on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I thought Matt Phillips (and Chris Martin) made an impact when they came on. You could say the officals were lenient with us but allowing us 4 subs?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_B81 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Forrest was dreadful, Hutton was more of a threat running with the ball and getting crosses in. Gary MacKay-Steven must be royally pissed off he gets overlooked for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 You could say the officals were lenient with us but allowing us 4 subs?... Matt Ritchie I was going to say I don't know much about him, but was reasonably impressed, suppose getting his name wrong sums up how little I know about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Forrest was dreadful, Hutton was more of a threat running with the ball and getting crosses in. Gary MacKay-Steven must be royally pissed off he gets overlooked for him. Not that Forrest is either, but I don't think GMS is consistent enough. I thought that was part of the problem on Friday, too many hot and cold players, that were cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFF 1875 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Forrest was abysmal, it was like playing with 10 men for the 80 minutes he was on the pitch. Matt Ritchie did more in his first 2 minutes than Forrest did in the previous 80. What on earth does Strachan see in this bloke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I'd rather have Matt Philips. Well if yer goin te be that daft aboot it I'd rather have Edward Longshanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 This thread exemplifies a lot on here. It goes like this:- Fans don't rate a player and don't want him near the side. Wait until the side are beaten and single out afore-mentioned player as the scapegoat. Sorry but to my eyes up in the West Stand Forrest was no worse than anyone else out there on the pitch and this comes from someone who is yet to be convinced by him. We lost against a far superior side and certainly not because Forrest played whilst someone else didn't in my view. Anya is one of my favourite players but he made no more an impact than Forrest when he came on so is he shite too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munro7 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I think Anya did do more than Forrest in his brief cameo. As did Ritchie and that's coming from someone who doesn't rate Ritchie at all. Anya at least looked to take on his fullback when he got the opportunity, Forrest just looked lost the whole game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 This thread exemplifies a lot on here. It goes like this:- Fans don't rate a player and don't want him near the side. Wait until the side are beaten and single out afore-mentioned player as the scapegoat. Sorry but to my eyes up in the West Stand Forrest was no worse than anyone else out there on the pitch and this comes from someone who is yet to be convinced by him. We lost against a far superior side and certainly not because Forrest played whilst someone else didn't in my view. Anya is one of my favourite players but he made no more an impact than Forrest when he came on so is he shite too? To be fair, a few people (myself included) haven't rated Forrest from day 1, not just last night or Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 To be fair, a few people (myself included) haven't rated Forrest from day 1, not just last night or Friday. My point is he is being singled out here. He was no worse/better than a lot on the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 My point is he is being singled out here. He was no worse/better than a lot on the pitch. True and I'd say the same for Brown, Hutton etc after Friday's game. I think the frustration with Forrest is that so many people can see he's not good enough yet, but Strachan still sticks with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyD Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Forrest spent 80 minutes defending and breaking. He did those tasks to a reasonable standard, tho on the whole we didn't break very much. That's not really down to Forrest tho, we didnt have great retention in the middle of the park. Forrest was probably the right choice to start this game and I dont think he really let anyone down. Certainly not to the level some seem to be saying of 'bomb him out the squad for the forseeable future'. And those saying Ritchie did more.. well. he came on when we had a wee head of steam going and was fresh against a tiring German fullback. That said i do like that he can overlap Hutton, offer for the ball, not get it, loop back around the outside of Hutton then deliver with his left foot. That's a nice little pattern that I'd like to see us do more often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 fringo, on 08 Sept 2015 - 1:22 PM, said: To be fair, a few people (myself included) haven't rated Forrest from day 1, not just last night or Friday. Indeed. Folk are allowed to have an opinion about players. Forrest may not have been much worse than the others but he'll get more stick as he has been rank rotten on every single appearance he has had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 True and I'd say the same for Brown, Hutton etc after Friday's game. I think the frustration with Forrest is that so many people can see he's not good enough yet, but Strachan still sticks with him. The difference with Brown I see is that Brown starts every game and has been mince now since the Ireland at home match for us. Last night he was a fraction less mince to be fair too him but that isn't saying a lot but he will keep his place because I struggle to see anyone better out there to fill the engine room type player. By that I mean a player who runs around and wins or tries to get possession and get things moving forward but he is not creative enough as can see by his bog standard passes to retain possession. Adam couldn't do that role as he isn't that type of player, neither is Darren Fletcher and can't recall if Dorrans is even that type of player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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