Idiots In Our End Last Night

[thplinth]

You're having a laugh are you not ??

We've always had dickheads in our support, but to suggest that the bawbaggery has anything to do with 'anti Catholic' behaviour is so wide of the mark it's getting close to insanity.

I heard Ferguson and McCann being called 'orange bast*rds' In Dublin. Does that mean that the whole Irish support is anti-protestant ?

Scotland support (i.e the orange bawbags) - whitewash

Celtic support - tarbrush

Edited November 15, 2014 by thplinth

[EddardStark]

By and large both countries have a fond connection with each other. I found us to be very very similar. We like pints and love to support our country. If we don't make it and Scotland do then i'll be sining Loch Lomand and cheering you as if i was roaring on the Boys in Green in Lansdowne Rd.

Not sure about that. Scots history in Ireland is not remembered with a great deal of affection

[Angus_Young]

what were the Irish lads doing? Not doubting your word just curious?

Had no problems myself. Great craic in crystal bells bar before the game with a coach load of Arbroath lads

Took extreme offence to McGeady being booed to the point they were confronting and squaring up to Scotland fans. They then started playing the 'you are all bigots' card when they got told to do one. I have to say I heard nothing sectarian last night although don't doubt that it happened. I feared what a couple of other posters have alluded to in that a lot of guys were at this match as a one off.

Thing is mate I know one of your players being given dogs abuse can't be nice but it was booing, nothing more, nothing less, if those lads didn't like that, why the feck come into the home sections?

I'll stress though, the vast majority of you were great and would be welcome back any time.

[flynnyboy]

No its not.

In over 40 years of living in Angus I never witnessed or heard of a single incident caused by religion.

You do realise that in many places there are no separate secondary schools and that we all get on just fine ?

That is one small region in terms of population of our country mate. And if it does not exist there then I hope the rest of our country follows your example. But in our areas of mass population it is apparent.

You eluded to the fact that separate schooling has an impact and I 100% agree. But that is for another debate.

[TheBoysinGreen]

Not sure about that. Scots history in Ireland is not remembered with a great deal of affection

Where are you from? People in the Republic of Ireland have zero ill will towards Scotland. We see you as cousins and if you make Euro 2016 then everyone will be cheering you on.

Edited November 15, 2014 by TheBoysinGreen

[Paulo2576]

Not at all. It's no laughing matter. I said scotland as a country not the Scotland support. It is a massive issue that has manifested itself with many I've had the displeasure to encounter whilst at scotland games home and away.

For the record it has been a small minority but it is there. In general those who support our country's football team shun all that nonsense. But I'm not surprised it happened for reasons previously stated. It's a slight on our nation and something that needs eradicated.

Is it the catholic religion that's hated though or just the team it's aligned to? I' don't think their religious belief has the slightest thing to do with it. If someone asked me to describe the difference between the two 'religions' I would struggle, as I think many would. Think you're way wide of the mark here mate. For my part, the team aligned to the other religion are more hated. This could descend into a horrible discussion though!

[flynnyboy]

It infuriates me that sectarianism is still a huge issue in our game, it angers me even further that people bring their club attitudes to the national side, I heard a Scotland fan call refer to Naisy as a 'wee turncoat ' , what kind of support is that?

For what it's worth i'm a Celtic fan, but i completely forget about which team a player plays for when he pulls on a Scotland shirt. Unfortunately some people seem unable to let go of their club agendas.

I'm very disappointed to hear of coin throwing and verbal abuse etc, i can guarantee that the majority of the Scotland support will treat you with a friendly attitude, but it's worrying that the number of idiots attending our games seems to be on the rise. I'm not in anyway condoning the coin throwing and abuse, but i think in a game of this magnitude, with all at stake and the Mcgeady factor (which seemed to raise aggression levels, perhaps understandably) and with the atmosphere in the stadium, with away fans mixing in the Scotland end , there was always going to be a bit of

tension in the stands.

It saddens me that some people had a negative experience in Glasgow , however i hope the vast majority were welcomed with open arms, i'm very much looking forward to coming over to Dublin, where i expect the atmosphere to be good natured.

Agreed. Good post

[andyg83]

Throughout the whole game last night and everything that's been discussed today, that is the first time the word catholic has even entered my mindset. Can't agree with that.

Agree with this. Nothing to do with religion.

[Guest BlueGaz]

How do we stop this stuff though?

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Stopping away fans in home end would be a start. They put out threats that they would be stopped or ejected but that was clearly just a threat. Plod just stood and watched them. Fortunately we won or I think there would have been a lot more incidents. I wouldn't throw coins or call names myself, but still don't want them singing next to me at home.

Thank fk we are back at Hampden now.

Also, if u want to sit in an away end with colours on, you don't deserve hassle, but very naive to think you will be 100% safe. I certainly wouldn't be stupid enough to do it.

[Rossy]

Where are you from? People in the Republic of Ireland have zero ill will towards Scotland. We see you as cousins and if you make Euro 2016 then everyone will be cheering you on.

I've never really got this cuddly 'Celtic brotherhood' thing.

While I've no ill will towards Ireland, and I've enjoyed my visits to Dublin, I don't think of the Irish as 'cousins'. Most Scots propably have more in common with the English than the Irish.

And to be honest, I normally hope that Ireland get pumped at pretty much everything when it comes to sport....

[EddardStark]

I've never really got this cuddly 'Celtic brotherhood' thing.

While I've no ill will towards Ireland, and I've enjoyed my visits to Dublin, I don't think of the Irish as 'cousins'. Most Scots propably have more in common with the English than the Irish.

And to be honest, I normally hope that Ireland get pumped at pretty much everything when it comes to sport....

ditto. plus Wales.

Edited November 15, 2014 by EddardStark

[Caledonian Craig]

Sadly, some supporters (some of them armchair) cannot leave club football out of international football. The odd times I have been in pubs watching Scotland away matches it p!sses me right off hearing Celtic players being slated by Gers fans or vice versa and such-like. FFS they are all out on that pitch dripping sweat for Scotland who we surely all want to win so why oh why oh why cannot people let their club allegiances drop?

[deecie]

I disagree. Glasgow and Edinburgh have huge problems with it. The western isles also. Even up in the far north the Presbyterian views manifest in anti Catholicism. By saying it's not a problem for our nation is blinkered.

It is the sole reason for the football legislation that was brought in by the snp as it seems to be a vehicle to manifest bigoted views.

You're still wrong.

[EddardStark]

Sadly, some supporters (some of them armchair) cannot leave club football out of international football. The odd times I have been in pubs watching Scotland away matches it p!sses me right off hearing Celtic players being slated by Gers fans or vice versa and such-like. FFS they are all out on that pitch dripping sweat for Scotland who we surely all want to win so why oh why oh why cannot people let their club allegiances drop?

its not just Rangers and Celtic fans who indulge.

[Bzzzz]

Didn't see a single issue at all, all the Irish fellas we met were brand new and havin a great time. There are always idiots, as fowk are saying, either do something about it or accept it's "just one of those things".

Either way, once we were in the ground last night everything (apart from probably the worst FoS I've ever heard) was magic. Had a great time, great match, great match experience. Sadly ScotRail and the Glasgow Polis conspired to ruin the rest of it but that's another story.

[andyg83]

ditto. plus Wales.

I don't agree. I think the scots and Irish are more similar than any other of the home nations. We have a great deal of shared culture and shared history. Sometimes it hasn't all been friendly but there is definitely a connection between the peoples.

Try googling the origin of the terms scots and you will soon see.

[EddardStark]

I don't agree. I think the scots and Irish are more similar than any other of the home nations. We have a great deal of shared culture and shared history. Sometimes it hasn't all been friendly but there is definitely a connection between the peoples.

Try googling the origin of the terms scots and you will soon see.

I understand the origins. I think we went our separate ways around 1560. The similarity you refer to is more recent, around the late 19th, early 20th century and that is less endearing.

Edited November 15, 2014 by EddardStark

[1320lichtie]

When did Ireland fans start singing 'just can't get enough'?!?!?

[Greenman]

About 4 years ago

[Caledonian Craig]

its not just Rangers and Celtic fans who indulge.

Yes I know. I did post up Rangers and Celtic and such-like and by that I did mean other clubs.

[neilser]

In my many, many trips to Dublin as a Scotland fan I've found nothing but welcoming, drunk bampots. Much like ourselves.

Agreed - I've been over 4 times for the 6 Nations matches and it's truly amazing how friendly and welcoming people are. And, like you say, drunk...

[EddardStark]

Anyway back on track. I don't think any victory have given me so much satisfaction than last nights. I genuinely think the Republic of Ireland have been one of the luckiest teams in world football for a long time. So its nice to have a wee rub of the green.

[fringo]

I don't agree. I think the scots and Irish are more similar than any other of the home nations. We have a great deal of shared culture and shared history. Sometimes it hasn't all been friendly but there is definitely a connection between the peoples.

Try googling the origin of the terms scots and you will soon see.

I understand the origins. I think we went our separate ways around 1560. The similarity you refer to is more recent, around the late 19th, early 20th century and that is less endearing.

I agree with andyg83.

I'm talking from personal experience of meeting scores of cracking Irish folk over the years.

I spent a few of those years working and studying in France meeting lots of different nationalities but the Scots and Irish tended to become the closest social bunch of friends (along with the Dutch).

Go anywhere and I bet the Scots and Irish have the most in common and meet and socialise together more than most.

Great people IMO.

[EddardStark]

I agree with andyg83.

I'm talking from personal experience of meeting scores of cracking Irish folk over the years.

I spent a few of those years working and studying in France meeting lots of different nationalities but the Scots and Irish tended to become the closest social bunch of friends (along with the Dutch).

Go anywhere and I bet the Scots and Irish have the most in common and meet and socialise together more than most.

Great people IMO.

through drink maybe.

[Argentina78]

Pleased with the result gutted by the Young fans tragic death.

I've attended hundreds of matches now and I'd a few observations last night.

A few of which were very concerning

1) were the stewards the Celtic ones who normally work there or were they SFA employed ones?

2) why were there no police or alcohol amnesty bins outside the Lisbon Lions stand turnstiles (32-39) no one was searching fans at all

Is this due to the increased costs on football from Police Scotland or something else?

3)why was so much alcoholic allowed into the ground when it was well known the Irish fans would be there and there was massive potential for a powder keg!

I actually told stewards about 4/5 pissed Scotland fans all with bottles of buck fast, but they did nothing!

4)why were so many fans delayed in entry? Was it bcos every ticket was being separated by hand I stead of using Celtics machine entry system??

Plus why were stewards/police having fans in the Lisbon Lions stand take a massive detour round the back of the Irish fans when they could've been sent the other way?

I wasn't impressed with much of the above and I hope that the SFA and SSC who allegedly read the TAMB take note of some of the above points, bcos I really think we could've had a lot of bother in the Stadium last night.