the_observer Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Shouldn't you disclose you're an embittered fan of a team that has just lost a game to Celtic, since full disclosure seems a primary concern? Is it not obvious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Brian McNally is a celtic supporter. He is a Newcastle supporter I think but has a love for all things Hoopy. He is also a total bellend.I am sure he does not defend free speech on other matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Brian McNally @McNallyMirror · Nov 8 Football's new obsession with war & the military is breeding a worrying intolerance of freedom of speech & expression.Dissent at your peril. Agree with this 100%. At the West Brom Newcastle game yesterday they had a minutes silence for Remembrance before the game. The fans then had a minutes applause for something to do with Jeff Astle during the game, another for the 2 Newcastle fans that died in the MH flight and I think another for the boy Guitierrez who is recovering from cancer. While these are all noble causes it's getting to the stage that the football is becoming the sideshow to respect junkies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Agree with this 100%. At the West Brom Newcastle game yesterday they had a minutes silence for Remembrance before the game. The fans then had a minutes applause for something to do with Jeff Astle during the game, another for the 2 Newcastle fans that died in the MH flight and I think another for the boy Guitierrez who is recovering from cancer. While these are all noble causes it's getting to the stage that the football is becoming the sideshow to respect junkies.that's not what mcnally is on about though. I have no issues with Mcleans stance but McNally is providing succor to those who cant keep silent at Pittodrie for 60 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Agree with this 100%. At the West Brom Newcastle game yesterday they had a minutes silence for Remembrance before the game. The fans then had a minutes applause for something to do with Jeff Astle during the game, another for the 2 Newcastle fans that died in the MH flight and I think another for the boy Guitierrez who is recovering from cancer. While these are all noble causes it's getting to the stage that the football is becoming the sideshow to respect junkies. I quite agree. It's getting to the stage that almost every game has a minutes applause for some reason or another and it annoys me to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnie x Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I would suggest that its just football reflecting society with the glorification of all things military. (which in turn seems to link in with americanisation) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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biffer Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I quite agree. It's getting to the stage that almost every game has a minutes applause for some reason or another and it annoys me to be honest. It'll become similar to the US - they're desperate to have someone from the military for the crowd to cheer at every game. I was at a baseball game in Chicago and they had a third lieutenant from the coastguard ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Och Aye Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/never-again-antiwar-veterans-to-carry-whitepoppy-wreath-to-cenotaph-9833246.html?origin=internalSearch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/never-again-antiwar-veterans-to-carry-whitepoppy-wreath-to-cenotaph-9833246.html?origin=internalSearch Interesting article from someone who "served" sums up how many feel, including myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 That can't be real, surely? Can it ? .................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 That can't be real, surely? Can it ? .................. http://home.bt.com/news/odd-news/tesco-worker-creates-poppy-pizza-for-remembrance-day-11363943001485 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 In that case I don't know if this years remembrance campaign can go much lower. Sign me up for a white poppy next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doakes Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I don't wear a poppy. Got respect for soldiers, but it is a career choice these days. Rather than serving your country, most wars now are fought to protect corporate interest - rather than an actual "necessity" for war. Doesn't sit right with me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 In that case I don't know if this years remembrance campaign can go much lower. Sign me up for a white poppy next year get in early then, my money was returned to me as they couldn't meet the demand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I don't wear a poppy. Got respect for soldiers, but it is a career choice these days. Rather than serving your country, most wars now are fought to protect corporate interest - rather than an actual "necessity" for war. Doesn't sit right with me That's true, but that's not what Remembrance Day is about. The clue is in the name. It's not a celebration of illegal wars in the middle east, or a celebration of killing Catholics in 'Derry, in the north of Ireland', or a 'celebration' of war at all. It's remembrance. Pure and simple. The Labour government of Tony Blair have a lot to answer for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doakes Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 That's true, but that's not what Remembrance Day is about. The clue is in the name. It's not a celebration of illegal wars in the middle east, or a celebration of killing Catholics in 'Derry, in the north of Ireland', or a 'celebration' of war at all. It's remembrance. Pure and simple. The Labour government of Tony Blair have a lot to answer for. It's not just remembrance, though. The Royal British Legion exists for "all who serve" in the British Army. Can't bring myself to support that when they're involved in illegal wars for financial gain. I can remember without wearing a poppy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 It's not just remembrance, though. The Royal British Legion exists for "all who serve" in the British Army. Can't bring myself to support that when they're involved in illegal wars for financial gain. I can remember without wearing a poppy. Sorry, I wasn't having a go at you, and I don't necessarily disagree with you. It's true that the financial aspect of poppy day benefits serving soldiers as well as veterans.....but I was talking purely about the moral aspect of poppy day, which for me is about remembrance. As I said, we can blame the Labour government of around 12 years ago for creating this cynicism around 11th November. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doakes Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Sorry, I wasn't having a go at you, and I don't necessarily disagree with you. It's true that the financial aspect of poppy day benefits serving soldiers as well as veterans.....but I was talking purely about the moral aspect of poppy day, which for me is about remembrance. As I said, we can blame the Labour government of around 12 years ago for creating this cynicism around 11th November. No problem Rossy, I see your point. Labour have a lot to answer for within the last 10-20 years. Almost unrecognisable as a party and have lost a lot of their core values along the way. Though that may well be the case for politics in general... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Jesus Christ!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock strap Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 He is a Newcastle supporter I think but has a love for all things Hoopy. He is also a total bellend.I am sure he does not defend free speech on other matters. Newcastle wear stripes do they not ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Newcastle wear stripes do they not ? Vertical hoops, apparently.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Popperoni. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock strap Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Popperoni. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 No problem Rossy, I see your point. Labour have a lot to answer for within the last 10-20 years. Almost unrecognisable as a party and have lost a lot of their core values along the way. Though that may well be the case for politics in general... You need to make your signature this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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