TDYER63 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, PapofGlencoe said: hadn't seen that poll, apart from on here. Good to see. remarkably, I dont think support for Indy is really the main problem right enough. You somewhat hope the more people see of Labour less they like. still a tough challenge. When I read it on here I googled it just to get more info. The only articles that came up were in The National, which is behind a paywall , and unsurprisingly, that Daily Express , again . Strangely enough this must not have been in Malcom’s edition…. Edited November 29, 2023 by TDYER63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 2 hours ago, King Of Paisley said: The message needs to get through up here that Labour are simply no different to the Tories. Wedded to a hard Brext, just as aggressive on immigration, a reminder that the fat slug in Jackie Baillie voted against free school meals, Liz Kendall saying the Tories aren't going far enough on benefits crackdown. Not to mention the true socialists in the Labour Party have long since been purged. Once election campaigning starts in earnest next year these facts should become more apparent to voters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 5 hours ago, King Of Paisley said: 10 point lead which would equate to 44 seats and a Toaly wipe out 54% for Yes Ipsos STV news If there was an election tomorrow, I believe it would be a 5 point lead. The snp would get a thumping no question about it, I do however think we would gain support right back with a quick change back to old school snp policies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Toepoke said: Once election campaigning starts in earnest next year these facts should become more apparent to voters. Tories pushing through legislation to enforce school teachers to go into schools and keep them open even when they've voted to strike. It will be followed by other legislation undermining the right to strike by insisting on minimum levels of service. Labour? As far as I can tell, not a squeak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 2:04 PM, hampden_loon2878 said: 🤣 wow really proactive, send out a tweet that you had a meeting, a meeting about what exactly? Seems to me that he has accepted the place will close and that’s it, no fight to keep it open,, I don't know about you but I breathed a sigh of relief knowing that Marmalade is on the case. Three cheers for Aaid and his superfast Twitter searching skills! 👏 The Grangemouth site will be turned into Europe's largest Chinese restaurant - somewhere once responsible for handling crude oil being ideal for developing that unctuous glow given off by sweet and sour sauce - and probably student accommodation too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 20 hours ago, King Of Paisley said: The message needs to get through up here that Labour are simply no different to the Tories. Wedded to a hard Brext, just as aggressive on immigration, a reminder that the fat slug in Jackie Baillie voted against free school meals, Liz Kendall saying the Tories aren't going far enough on benefits crackdown. Not to mention the true socialists in the Labour Party have long since been purged. Jackie Baillie is like some character out of a 1970s Dr Who episode. A genuinely vile woman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Paisley Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 46 minutes ago, scotlad said: Jackie Baillie is like some character out of a 1970s Dr Who episode. A genuinely vile woman. Voted against free school meals yet some areas of her Dumbarton constituency are some of the most deprived in Scotland. Utterly despicable human being. Unreal she got back in but that will have been the tactical voting of the staunch mob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 20 hours ago, hampden_loon2878 said: If there was an election tomorrow, I believe it would be a 5 point lead. The snp would get a thumping no question about it, I do however think we would gain support right back with a quick change back to old school snp policies Agreed about the need for policy changes, but the SNP need to start campaigning now. Labour are there for the taking with their policies. No matter how Sarwar tries to differentiate "Scottish" Labour, in a UK general election he can't be allowed to get away with that. He is by definition pro-brexit, anti Scottish democracy whether he wants to be or not cos that's what London Labour dictates. Any half decent SNP leader would be ramming that home daily, but Yousaf seems more interested in making ultimately pointless gestures about Middle East politics - virtue signalling like his old boss. Trouble is he's not really a leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Scot Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 2 hours ago, King Of Paisley said: Voted against free school meals yet some areas of her Dumbarton constituency are some of the most deprived in Scotland. Utterly despicable human being. Unreal she got back in but that will have been the tactical voting of the staunch mob Dumbarton is a weird place politically. Historically Labour got in because of all the shipyards and whisky industry. More recently alot of families linked to fastlane stay there. It used to be that voting would be split by where you stayed in Dumbarton. Ive never met 1 person who has a good word to say about Bailley though and yet she gets in on the stregnth of her party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted November 30, 2023 Author Share Posted November 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, Diamond Scot said: It used to be that voting would be split by where you stayed in Dumbarton. Ive never met 1 person who has a good word to say about Bailley though and yet she gets in on the stregnth of her party. And Unionist tactical voting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: And Unionist tactical voting Of course you miss the point that under AMS, if Jackie Baillie were to lose her constituency seat, she’d simply be replaced by the number Labour person on the West of Scotland, one Jackie Baillie. The same as Anas Sarwar in Glasgow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 3 hours ago, King Of Paisley said: Voted against free school meals yet some areas of her Dumbarton constituency are some of the most deprived in Scotland. Utterly despicable human being. Unreal she got back in but that will have been the tactical voting of the staunch mob I know I shouldn't "body shame" - but - there's something so unedifying about a big, fat, smug, plummy-voiced person like her voting against weans being fed. It's like something from the 18th century! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Scot Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Ally Bongo said: And Unionist tactical voting There isnt many traditional torys in Dumbarton area to be fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 22 minutes ago, Diamond Scot said: There isnt many traditional torys in Dumbarton area to be fair. Aye, but Helensburgh is full o them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Paisley Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 4 hours ago, scotlad said: I know I shouldn't "body shame" - but - there's something so unedifying about a big, fat, smug, plummy-voiced person like her voting against weans being fed. It's like something from the 18th century! Reminds me of Harry Secombe/Mr Bumble in Oliver.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 9 hours ago, King Of Paisley said: Reminds me of Harry Secombe/Mr Bumble in Oliver.... 🤣 "You want MORE????" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StirlingEgg Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 23 hours ago, stocky said: Aye, but Helensburgh is full o them. I can vouch for this 😐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Skeletons coming out to play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 21 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said: Skeletons coming out to play Whilst the British government held parties at 10 Downing Street - bit rich these claims. My guess is they have come from those of a Labour persuasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 1 hour ago, hampden_loon2878 said: Skeletons coming out to play This is the same pish that you were spreading during the leadership election. I also think that was supposed to have happened long before COVID which makes it double pish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 I read that ‘news’ yesterday. Might be true , might not, but it seems just a little too convenient immediately after the scathing UK government covid report. It may be the case the union are starting to over play their hand. It would seem for every uk government scandal they need to find an equally bad SNP story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 I think we are all aware of who it is being rumoured that the two parliamentarians are who were involved in this alleged dalliance.it is the covid bit that is the problem. very serious if true and a resignation matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 25 minutes ago, TDYER63 said: I read that ‘news’ yesterday. Might be true , might not, but it seems just a little too convenient immediately after the scathing UK government covid report. It may be the case the union are starting to over play their hand. It would seem for every uk government scandal they need to find an equally bad SNP story. Funny that it comes out on the day that Matt Hancock gave evidence to the UK COVID inquiry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 1 hour ago, aaid said: This is the same pish that you were spreading during the leadership election. I also think that was supposed to have happened long before COVID which makes it double pish. What was I spreading? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, Malcolm said: I think we are all aware of who it is being rumoured that the two parliamentarians are who were involved in this alleged dalliance.it is the covid bit that is the problem. very serious if true and a resignation matter. Who? I dont know who it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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