Ukraine

[SpecialisedOutsourcing]

Just now, Tartan_Tonna said:

I watched BBC film, Threads (1984), surviving a nuclear attack on Sheffield. It has freaked me out. I didn't grow up in the 80s I was born in 93.

Where did you grow up Tonna?

[Ally Bongo]

7 minutes ago, SpecialisedOutsourcing said:

actually, coming on a Scottish message Board to praise Colonel Gaddafi is a new low given how many Scots he murdered in Lockerbie. Maybe you should have done some proper research on Libya first rather than just talk to African taxi drivers?

Clearly you havent researched the Lockerbie Air disaster 

[thplinth]

Why are you continuing to ask others questions when you can’t even be honest about your original tamb identity? What did you get banned for? It must be pretty bad.

[SpecialisedOutsourcing]

6 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said:

Clearly you havent researched the Lockerbie Air disaster 

Go on - indulge me. CIA? MI6? Shit, forgot Mossad.

Edited March 7, 2022 by SpecialisedOutsourcing

[SpecialisedOutsourcing]

Just now, thplinth said:

Why are you continuing to ask others questions when you can’t even be honest about your original tamb identity? What did you get banned for? It must be pretty bad.

No idea what you're havering about. Paranoia run amok!

I did however ask you a question 12 days ago - simple yes or no - you still haven't answered it.....

Obviously we all know the answer now.

[thplinth]

You want to keep reappearing, cost free. But not this time cunt. Who were you?

[Orraloon]

51 minutes ago, aaid said:

Awkward

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-19995166

Who is it awkward for?

[Ally Bongo]

11 minutes ago, SpecialisedOutsourcing said:

Go on - indulge me. CIA? MI6? Shit, forgot Mossad.

Iran - and it was so obvious it was Iran that the fact it was dismissed so quickly tells you everything about the Kangaroo court trial

[Ally Bongo]

2 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said:

Iran - and it was so obvious it was Iran that the fact it was dismissed so quickly tells you everything about the Kangaroo court trial

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/longterm/panam103/stories/cia0589.htm

[Tartan_Tonna]

A new low? I came on this forum to talk Scottish Independence! I don't think an Independent Scotland should be in NATO. I think NATO have, abandoned Zelensky! I think NATO makes Glasgow a target and I think that Nuclear weapons are offensive and in no way defensive. 

If the SNP under Alex Salmond voted to change their stance. Well I think that's wrong. I don't agree with it. 

I think Vladamir Putin is commiting war crimes. I think he has commited war crimes in other countries like in Syria before. Its only now because he's attacking in Europe, there are calls for him to be trialled. 

It's my take. A new low? I haven't praised Gadaffi at all. You're right. I have not studied the conflict in Libya! I couldn't even tell you Gadaffi's first name! My taxi driver said he dreamed of moving to Libya! He said it was bombed by NATO. I took his word for it! 

What I do agree is with his point that life was better under dictatorships in Africa and the Middle East. People had jobs. Cars. Schools to go to. But because the United States didn't like them, they have destabalised and bombed their cities to ruin to put their own puppet regiemes in!

I think that's a fair point do you not? 

The Syrian refugees. Lybia. Iraq is a dangerous country to stay in. As it turns out they didn't have any nuclear weapons and it was an illegal war. Is life any better for them now Sadam was killed? Its an interesting point I think! 

I don't think, NATO. I don't think NATO make us safer. I think NATO membership makes us a target for an attack. I'd very much hope not to see an Independent Scotland in NATO. 

What are the key benefits of being in NATO? Will Scotland ever be invaded? Not a chance! 

 

 

Edited March 7, 2022 by Tartan_Tonna

[exile]

It seems the situation is so complicated that it's hard for some to say if the invasion is a good thing or a bad thing.

So here is a question. What would it take for you to call it as definitely (on balance) a good thing or a bad thing?

Can you say, what would the Russians have to do, for you to call it out as being, on balance, an unjustified invasion?

Or, what would Ukraine have to do (or be proven to have done), to call it out as being, on balance, justified?

[SpecialisedOutsourcing]

30 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said:

Iran - and it was so obvious it was Iran that the fact it was dismissed so quickly tells you everything about the Kangaroo court trial

 

28 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/longterm/panam103/stories/cia0589.htm

The article was written 4 months after the bombing - I'm sure Investigators found a lot more evidence subsequently.

Let's face it we'll never know 100% who was responsible but Gaddafi did ultimately pay compensation to the victims.

[SpecialisedOutsourcing]

And anyone pushing for an independent Scotland to withdraw from NATO is either a Unionist or a Russian asset - support for independence would plunge like a falling knife if that was the policy.

[thplinth]

Why are you running scared? Who were you?

[Ally Bongo]

15 minutes ago, Tartan_Tonna said:

What I do agree is with his point that life was better under dictatorships in Africa and the Middle East. People had jobs. Cars. Schools to go to. But because the United States didn't like them, they have destabalised and bombed their cities to ruin to put their own puppet regiemes in!

I think that's a fair point do you not? 

 

 

 

 

It all depends whose life you are referring to

Stability without democracy

You could say the same about Nazi Germany before they went on their World conquest - provided you werent Jewish, Homosexual, Romani etc 

Same with the likes of Iraq - provided you werent a Kurd or a different kind of Muslim than the ruling party

 

 

 

[SpecialisedOutsourcing]

4 minutes ago, thplinth said:

Why are you running scared? Who were you?

Not running from anyone, or anything! Joined the Board in 2019. 

Edited to say I see the ruble just dropped to 155 to the Euro. Ouch! 

Edited March 7, 2022 by SpecialisedOutsourcing

[thplinth]

So be honest about who you are. It is a TAMB ID not even your real self.

[aaid]

30 minutes ago, SpecialisedOutsourcing said:

 

The article was written 4 months after the bombing - I'm sure Investigators found a lot more evidence subsequently.

Let's face it we'll never know 100% who was responsible but Gaddafi did ultimately pay compensation to the victims.

Most likely that Libya had some hand in it, probably wasn’t Megrahi but as a member of Libya’s secret service I doubt his hands were entirely clean, so no sympathy for him,

[aaid]

17 minutes ago, SpecialisedOutsourcing said:

And anyone pushing for an independent Scotland to withdraw from NATO is either a Unionist or a Russian asset - support for independence would plunge like a falling knife if that was the policy.

Which is why it’s the policy. 

[hampden_loon2878]

14 minutes ago, thplinth said:

Why are you running scared? Who were you?

aaids other half Ian haha

[thplinth]

9 minutes ago, thplinth said:

So be honest about who you are. 

 

[thplinth]

Fuck sorry did not mean to sound all profound there... my russian VPN must have quit. 😀

 

[mccaughey85]

2 hours ago, Tartan_Tonna said:

A new low? I came on this forum to talk Scottish Independence! I don't think an Independent Scotland should be in NATO. I think NATO have, abandoned Zelensky! I think NATO makes Glasgow a target and I think that Nuclear weapons are offensive and in no way defensive. 

If the SNP under Alex Salmond voted to change their stance. Well I think that's wrong. I don't agree with it. 

I think Vladamir Putin is commiting war crimes. I think he has commited war crimes in other countries like in Syria before. Its only now because he's attacking in Europe, there are calls for him to be trialled. 

It's my take. A new low? I haven't praised Gadaffi at all. You're right. I have not studied the conflict in Libya! I couldn't even tell you Gadaffi's first name! My taxi driver said he dreamed of moving to Libya! He said it was bombed by NATO. I took his word for it! 

What I do agree is with his point that life was better under dictatorships in Africa and the Middle East. People had jobs. Cars. Schools to go to. But because the United States didn't like them, they have destabalised and bombed their cities to ruin to put their own puppet regiemes in!

I think that's a fair point do you not? 

The Syrian refugees. Lybia. Iraq is a dangerous country to stay in. As it turns out they didn't have any nuclear weapons and it was an illegal war. Is life any better for them now Sadam was killed? Its an interesting point I think! 

I don't think, NATO. I don't think NATO make us safer. I think NATO membership makes us a target for an attack. I'd very much hope not to see an Independent Scotland in NATO. 

What are the key benefits of being in NATO? Will Scotland ever be invaded? Not a chance! 

 

 

Why should nato help ukraine? They are not member.

[Ally Bongo]

2 hours ago, Tartan_Tonna said:

A new low? I came on this forum to talk Scottish Independence! I don't think an Independent Scotland should be in NATO. I think NATO have, abandoned Zelensky! I think NATO makes Glasgow a target and I think that Nuclear weapons are offensive and in no way defensive. 

 

 

 

 

This is mental lol

You dont want Scotland to be in NATO as it makes Glasgow a target - yet you want NATO to help Ukraine, who are not a member of NATO, and will enter NATO into a war with Russia that could escalate into Nuclear holocaust

if Nuclear weapons are offensive then why have they not been used against anyone since 1945 ?

Mutually assured destruction - thats why

 

 

[Tartan_Tonna]

1 hour ago, mccaughey85 said:

Why should nato help ukraine? They are not member.

I hate nuclear weapons. Why should we have to live in fear of being vapourised? My home city is Glasgow.

I've read on a blog called, Calton Jock. I'll try and link it. That the Americans have dumped toxic waste at the bottom of Holy Loch. The nuclear subs are poisoning the fish in the river clyde. Cancer, genetic mutations and a high prevlance of children born with cleft palates in the area. That's the NATO legacy. 

I do think NATO has abandoned Ukraine. Zelensky wanted in the gang. Putin has attacked Ukraine because Zelensky wanted in the gang. Now the NATO gang are cowards, watching Zelensky being kicked to death by association with them! Cowards! 

I for one am glad the SNP are bringing forward, gender self ID! Just in time for WW3! 

The very thought of an attack on Poland by Putin has already made my balls jump right back inside me. 

In the event of war. I'm going to tuck my dick in between my legs, put on some red lipstick and call myself Brenda. Pronouns Me/I.  And I consider it an act of violence if you don't validate my feelings!

I'll not be fighting for a NATO cause I don't believe in.

I'll not be coming home in a blood soaked Butcher's Apron defending British foreign policy! I'll not be dying of radiation sickness where my hair teeth and skin fall out! 

Britain's not a military nation. Generation Z have no experience of war. And I don't believe in it either! 

I think we should be like Ireland personally. Or Switzerland. As neutral as possible! You can't get any more neutral than Switzerland. I'll be jumping over the fence on a motorbike. 

Ukraine have poked the beast! Its their fight, why should it be Scotland's? The lost Army souls of the Blackwatch of Inverness, why should they have to come back in a coffin fighting to defend Poland/NATO? 

There is an alternative. Independence for Scotland free from British foreign policy. 

 

 

Edited March 7, 2022 by Tartan_Tonna