Lamia Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 37 minutes ago, thplinth said: Dearie me. Wagner group are a Russian mercenary group similar to Blackwater. They have been around for years. The US infamously bombed some of them in Syria (I think) when they threatened to overrun ISIS or some other asset one day, can't recall off the top of my head. If the big reveal is they are in Ukraine then I would say... shocker. There will be mercenaries working for both sides, but especially on the Ukrainian side as they need them most. The Chechen special forces have been deployed as well and they look mental. There are some right hard cases kicking about Ukraine at this point and all tooled up to the eye balls. Bad place to be. There are clearly elements at work making it even more difficult to determine the truth. That said these elements wouldn’t be able to operate as they are without the Russian invasion for which there is no justification or good outcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 22 minutes ago, thplinth said: You also tried to deny the existence of neo-nazis in Ukraine and argued it was anti semitic to say there were as Ukraine had a Jewish president. You are not really batting for truth here are you. 😀 More lies ? Deary me You have painted the Government of Ukraine as Neo Nazis since day 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 When you lie all the time, I guess it must be hard to remember them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Russian POWs speaking out, fair play to them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 What I think is not relevant to the conflict. It is the ethnic Russian Ukrainians who perceive them them to be favourable to neo nazis. The Azov Battalion is clearly neo nazi. There are a million articles on the internet discussing them being neo-nazis that were penned long before the latest conflict in Ukraine. So when you see your president violently overthrown, then an unelected government from a coup incorporate a full blown neo-nazi militia into the Ukrainian National Guard that sends a very bad message (laughably excused above as them just needing the soldiers...) But then they banned the Russian language. They might as well have stuck on a Swastika arm band and started goosestepping at that point in the message that sent... No wonder they were perceived as being neo-nazis by the eastern Ukrainians. Why incorporate neo-nazis into your official national guard, why ban ethnic Russian Ukrainians from speaking the Russian language. That screams neo-nazi. And then they started shelling them for wanting to break away... so what would you think if you were them. I can understand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 The President of the United States, Donald Trump, called the president-elect to congratulate him and "the Ukrainian people for a peaceful [and] democratic election."[135] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialisedOutsourcing Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 31 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Russian POWs speaking out, fair play to them... To be fair, I’d want to see that that is a Russian POW independently verified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Lamia said: There are clearly elements at work making it even more difficult to determine the truth. That said these elements wouldn’t be able to operate as they are without the Russian invasion for which there is no justification or good outcome For me asking if the invasion is good or bad justified or not justified is a somewhat misleading question. It leads you down a false path as none of that factored into it. When the puppet president Zelensky openly said he wanted Ukraine in NATO with nuclear weapons he knew what that would bring down on him. (I have read articles saying the Russians received intelligence NATO was about to deploy some forces in Ukraine, I dont know if that is true though.) IMHO they wanted Russia to invade and they just kept ratcheting it up to the point Russia felt it had no choice. That guy Zelensky knew exactly what he was doing, suicidal but he wont care. So whose fault is it. I think the Russian are loathed to being do this. They knew fine well the shit storm it would bring down on them. We backed them into this corner whereby they have intervened. So I am curious to where we go from here, them and us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialisedOutsourcing Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Highly recommend this documentary “Winter on Fire” btw - not sure anyone has mentioned it yet? You will see that the violence all came from the pro Russian puppet govt: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pcmag.com/news/netflix-posts-winter-on-fire-ukraines-fight-for-freedom-on-youtube%3famp=true Our own Lord Haw Haw very much on fire this morning too - all the Kremlin weekend talking points coming out - “bioweapons” mentioned twice, for example. Not sure how he’ll get paid this week? With some cold borscht perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialisedOutsourcing Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 It’s pretty fucking embarrassing this tbh - imagine if we had the internet during WW2 and you had a Scottish Nazi sympathiser / paid Nazi asset posting all sorts of pro-Nazi propaganda on a football message board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 We do. 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialisedOutsourcing Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 2 hours ago, thplinth said: aaid it is a VPN. You can change it to virtually any country. Today I am in Yokohama. 😀 Why would you need a VPN to post on the TAMB? 1. You’re in Russia 2. you don’t want the Admin to determine your location? any other “good” reasons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 This is what I was saying about the oligarchs. Interesting point about our own 'court billionaires', never really thought of it like that before... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, SpecialisedOutsourcing said: Why would you need a VPN to post on the TAMB? 1. You’re in Russia 2. you don’t want the Admin to determine your location? any other “good” reasons? To watch the RT video I posted above of Putin saying "the streets of St Petersburg taught him that if conflict is inevitable it is better to strike first" you stupid c**t! or to access other 'geolocked' content as aaid described it. If you live in America say you could use it to watch the BBC iplayer. I am surprised you don't know that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialisedOutsourcing Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 29 minutes ago, thplinth said: So whose fault is it. I think the Russian are loathed to being do this. They knew fine well the shit storm it would bring down on them. We backed them into this corner whereby they have intervened. So I am curious to where we go from here, them and us. Very much like mighty Poland backed Nazi Germany and the USSR into a corner in 1939? Also, are you saying that any country that wants to join NATO can now be legitimately attacked by the Russian orcs? Because that puts Finland and Sweden next up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialisedOutsourcing Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, thplinth said: To watch the RT video I posted above of Putin saying "the streets of St Petersburg taught him that if conflict is inevitable it is better to strike first" you stupid c**t! or to access other 'geolocked' content as aaid described it. Was it “geolocked” when you first posted it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialisedOutsourcing Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Does everyone else on here use a VPN as they’re accessing “geolocked” data in their everyday Internet perusing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, SpecialisedOutsourcing said: Very much like mighty Poland backed Nazi Germany and the USSR into a corner in 1939? Also, are you saying that any country that wants to join NATO can now be legitimately attacked by the Russian orcs? Because that puts Finland and Sweden next up. Look familiar? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Himmler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 orcs is that like 'gooks'. Lovely chat. Interestingly orcs is what the neo-nazis called the Chechen troops above in the Breitbart story about them dipping their bullets in pig fat. The National Guard of Ukraine has shared video footage of “Azov fighters” greasing bullets with pig fat for Chechen “orcs” deployed in their country on their verified Twitter account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SpecialisedOutsourcing Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 If the Lebedev scandal doesn’t bring down Johnson then I don’t know what will. Also a good reason to abolish the House of Lords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialisedOutsourcing Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Will VPN’s still work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) Anyway Mr Twenty-Identities, you still have us all at a disadvantage. Most of us have been the same ID from when we registered but you were clearly a previous poster (or twenty) on here. (And you have the brass neck to suggest folk might be on here trolling...) So arsepieceoutsourcing who were you originally on here? You like to demand answers but are curiously silent answering this one. 😀 Or maybe that should be nazifiedoutsourcing. 😀 Edited March 7, 2022 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ramy 1314 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, thplinth said: Anyway Mr Twenty-Identities, you still have us all at a disadvantage. Most of us have been the same ID from when we registered but you were clearly a previous poster (or twenty) on here. (And you have the brass neck to suggest folk might be on here trolling...) So arsepieceoutsourcing who were you originally on here? You like to demand answers but are curiously silent answering this one. 😀 🍿🍿🍿 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ramy 1314 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, thplinth said: Anyway Mr Twenty-Identities, you still have us all at a disadvantage. Most of us have been the same ID from when we registered but you were clearly a previous poster (or twenty) on here. (And you have the brass neck to suggest folk might be on here trolling...) So arsepieceoutsourcing who were you originally on here? You like to demand answers but are curiously silent answering this one. 😀 🍿🍿🍿 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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