Malcolm Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Okay, it’s a while away yet, but assuming everyone Is fit and in form… what’s your first 11? Be tempted to go Gordon patterson Hendry Hanley. Tierney. Robertson Gilmour. Mcgregor Mctominay. Mcginn Dykes My questions would be…. Should I start dykes and Adams and drop a midfielder (Mctominay or McGregor). Should souttar be in contention after his man of match display, or Cooper as he also played well. Otherwise team picks itself I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McTeeko Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Adams in for McTominay. I’d be happy with Souttar in place of Hendry too providing he keeps his form up and doesn’t snap anything…..🤞🏼 Don’t think you’ll get many disagreeing with your team though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 McTominay does not merit a starting place for us - the next generation Charlie Adam for us. Adams in for McTominay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 If Souttar is that good I would start the same team we did against Denmark with only the Paterson O'Donnell swap. Don't think Hendry's that good and reckon Adams is better than Dykes. I probably over rate Christie but want some one playing off the striker. A mistake free Hanley might be better than Cooper but there's no one in Norwich expecting 90 minutes of error free Hanley. Back three might suit him better though, but I think it suits all central defenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) Hopefully the opposition won’t have twigged that we’ve been playing 3-4-3 recently as people on this thread haven’t worked it out yet. Edited November 28, 2021 by aaid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, aaid said: Hopefully the opposition won’t have twigged that we’ve been playing 3-4-3 recently as people on this thread haven’t worked it out yet. 🤣 343 is exactly the formation I'd go with in general, even if we hadn't been playing it lately. We always go on about our midfield being our strongest area, but the 352 basically meant we only played 3 midfielders and relied very heavily on McGinn to do most of the creativity. It vastly under-utilises one of our biggest strengths. With 343, you choose one of Dykes or Adams. I wouldn't be uspet with either being the starter, but not both. Then McGinn and another attacking midfielder would get almost free reign to create. This my team: Gordon Hendry Hanley Tierney Patterson Gilmour McGregor Robbo McGinn Dykes Christie I'd be fine with swapping McGregor with McTominay, and Dykes with Adams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 52 minutes ago, aaid said: Hopefully the opposition won’t have twigged that we’ve been playing 3-4-3 recently as people on this thread haven’t worked it out yet. Actually it's a 3-4-2-1 unless you think we're Liverpool and and Christie and McGinn are Mane and Salah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Actually it's a 3-4-2-1 unless you think we're Liverpool and and Christie and McGinn are Mane and Salah. They were both well advanced against Denmark, a lot closer to 3-4-3 than 3-4-2-1. Add to that that both Robertson and O’Donnell were much further advanced as well than they’d be in the latter formation. Edited November 28, 2021 by aaid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 56 minutes ago, aaid said: They were both well advanced against Denmark, a lot closer to 3-4-3 than 3-4-2-1. Add to that that both Robertson and O’Donnell were much further advanced as well than they’d be in the latter formation. Didn't think Christie and in particular McGinn were wide enough to call it a 3-4-3, but what ever it was it worked. One thing we can agree on it wasn't a back five. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Anybody who thinks McGregor will be dropped must have been watching different games than me recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Orraloon said: Anybody who thinks McGregor will be dropped must have been watching different games than me recently. Indeed, Gilmour and McGregor compliment each other really well in the centre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkm_vancouver Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Interesting to see McTominay playing a kind of makeshift roaming back three role at times against Chelsea. He may end up competing with Hendry if midfield stays as McGinn, Gilmour and McGregor and we stick with our general formation. Will be interesting to see how the winter games pan out. There's bound to be a few more twists and turns on form, injuries, game time, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Orraloon said: Anybody who thinks McGregor will be dropped must have been watching different games than me recently. Agreed, no chance any of the midfield 3 are being dropped if fit. I can't see where McTominay fits in unless it's centre half and even then he's up against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: Agreed, no chance any of the midfield 3 are being dropped if fit. I can't see where McTominay fits in unless it's centre half and even then he's up against it. McT is a great player to have on the bench. He gives the manager loads of options. Mind you, the way Clarke uses his subs, he's probably unlikely to ever get more than 15 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judith Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Gordon Patterson Hendry Hanley Teirney Robbo Gilmour McGregor McGinn Dykes Adams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfieMoon Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 I don’t get the continued obsession from some folk to try and fit McTominay in. Gilmour and McGregor are clearly working in midfield. McTominay has never looked comfortable at RCB and the improvement of Hendry and re-emergence of Souttar are far more natural options for that role. McTominay is a good option for the bench for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 23 minutes ago, Judith said: Gordon Patterson Hendry Hanley Teirney Robbo Gilmour McGregor McGinn Dykes Adams That would probably be my team as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVIDB46 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, AlfieMoon said: I don’t get the continued obsession from some folk to try and fit McTominay in. Gilmour and McGregor are clearly working in midfield. McTominay has never looked comfortable at RCB and the improvement of Hendry and re-emergence of Souttar are far more natural options for that role. McTominay is a good option for the bench for me. It’s the old he plays for Man United so he must be pure dead brilliant and he needs to play irrespective of form. But thankfully we are moving away from the kind of PlayStation selection policy that we had before and that is where results have improved. yes he had a good game yesterday , but he just easily follows that with half a dozen terrible games . Edited November 29, 2021 by DAVIDB46 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 hour ago, AlfieMoon said: I don’t get the continued obsession from some folk to try and fit McTominay in. Gilmour and McGregor are clearly working in midfield. McTominay has never looked comfortable at RCB and the improvement of Hendry and re-emergence of Souttar are far more natural options for that role. McTominay is a good option for the bench for me. Has anyone put mctominay in there starting 11? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theabsentee Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 On 11/28/2021 at 9:58 PM, ceudmilefailte said: If Souttar is that good I would start the same team we did against Denmark with only the Paterson O'Donnell swap. Don't think Hendry's that good and reckon Adams is better than Dykes. I probably over rate Christie but want some one playing off the striker. A mistake free Hanley might be better than Cooper but there's no one in Norwich expecting 90 minutes of error free Hanley. Back three might suit him better though, but I think it suits all central defenders. There isn't much in them but Leeds fans have been saying exactly the same thing about Cooper for years but he & Hanley are still captains of their epl teams so mistakes apart they are both strong characters with some leadership qualities. Your right though they are all probably more comfortable in a 3, since we have been playing that system the middle man in particular always seems to look really solid. We just have to wait & see where they are form & playing time wise come March. Looking forward to seeing how Souttar performs over the coming months. I think we would all be delighted if he can stay fit, look quality consistently & as a consequence unfortunately for Hearts fans attract a lot of interest from not only the OF but high end championship or even low epl clubs. If he does this then i would stick with him as a starter. The lad has had so much bad luck he deserves a chance to establish himself if he club form merits it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theabsentee Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 Gordon Souttar Hanley Tierney Patterson Robertson Gilmour McGregor McGinn Armstrong Adams Kinda mad choosing a Hearts starter over a Man Utd starter but i hope Clarke has that difficult decision to make come March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefaetheferry Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 There may well be another 'breakthrough' player in attack. Stuart McKinstry at Leeds has now made his league debut, albeit as a 5 min subby, against Spurs, and also played as a longer sub in the diddy cup, scoring one in a 6-5 penalty shoot out. I'm thinking he might be the closest we have to bring an option in the Armstrong, Christie area. Dependent on opportunities and form, obviously, but I'm thinking of the first 2 or 3 games Gilmour played for Chelsea, when we realised we had a genuine article. Can't really think of any other young Scot who might be on the verge of playing games at a high level. Especially attackers, as defensive and midfield positions seem fairly nailed on, with several options for Clarke to ponder. Gauld would be my only other suggestion, who could play that creative '10' role off one main striker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 11 hours ago, DAVIDB46 said: It’s the old he plays for Man United so he must be pure dead brilliant and he needs to play irrespective of form. But thankfully we are moving away from the kind of PlayStation selection policy that we had before and that is where results have improved. yes he had a good game yesterday , but he just easily follows that with half a dozen terrible games . This is a bit daft. I don’t see anyone shoe-horning him into the team. I also don’t remember us completing a match with the same 11 who started, so perhaps it’s time to change your way of thinking. It’s baffling if you can’t see McTominay is a good player. I think you’ll find it’s his juvenile Twitter critics who use the PlayStation philosophy, maybe the makers gave him 7 tekker points out of 10 or something. When has a player or former player ever questioned his ability? He’ll be Man Utd captain before long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daviebee Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 9 hours ago, theabsentee said: Gordon Souttar Hanley Tierney Patterson Robertson Gilmour McGregor McGinn Armstrong Adams Kinda mad choosing a Hearts starter over a Man Utd starter but i hope Clarke has that difficult decision to make come March. It'd actually be a Hearts starter over 2 CL starters. Still, he grabbed his chance and had an exceptional game so maybe it's his jersey to lose now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 12 hours ago, ceudmilefailte said: Has anyone put mctominay in there starting 11? The very first post on this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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