bossman4 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 1 minute ago, ceudmilefailte said: so a 5-4 win against Croatia gets us ahead of Switzerland? We need a 2 clear goal win to get ahead of the Swiss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Fair play to Swiss. For us, we need to win by two goals to finish above them or a 5-4 game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 I THINK this is right.. So we need two of these : Russia or Finland to lose - let's hope Belgium's no doubt B team have enough to see about the Finns. Austria or Ukraine to win - this game can't be a draw. Poland to not beat Sweden - could be done. Sweden are pretty sturdy, and whilst Poland were poor in the first game, they were much better last night. France to beat Portugal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Rampant Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Just now, bossman4 said: We need a 2 clear goal win to get ahead of the Swiss. Not if we end up having scored more goals than them I think. Win by a goal and we'll have the same GD but they'd be above us on goals scored unless we score 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, bossman4 said: We need a 2 clear goal win to get ahead of the Swiss. They are on -1 if we win so are we, Most goals scored I would imagine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVIDB46 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Tomorrow will tell us lots with three groups completed so we will we will be somewhere in the four with two groups to do. It’s the belgium or Spain group I feel would be the main targets to get ahead of , but a 2-0 win would take the waiting away I suspect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, romanticscot said: Fair play to Swiss. For us, we need to win by two goals to finish above them or a 5-4 game. Either scenario, I would be stunned if we got. Could see us beating Croatia, but it'll only be by a single goal, and they won't let in 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 There are plenty groups that can end up in our favor. At least one tomorrow will have 3rd with 3 points if not both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, weekevie04 said: I THINK this is right.. So we need two of these : Russia or Finland to lose - let's hope Belgium's no doubt B team have enough to see about the Finns. Austria or Ukraine to win - this game can't be a draw. Poland to not beat Sweden - could be done. Sweden are pretty sturdy, and whilst Poland were poor in the first game, they were much better last night. France to beat Portugal. Think a Russia draw is OK too with there goal difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted June 20, 2021 Author Share Posted June 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bobby Russell's Lovechild said: Either scenario, I would be stunned if we got. Could see us beating Croatia, but it'll only be by a single goal, and they won't let in 5 Yes I would agree with that but stranger things have happened so we could win 2-0 or by two goals. Pre-tournament Turkey were being tipped as possible dark horses and look what's happened to them? Nothing is assured in football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryWood34 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, weekevie04 said: I THINK this is right.. So we need two of these : Russia or Finland to lose - let's hope Belgium's no doubt B team have enough to see about the Finns. Austria or Ukraine to win - this game can't be a draw. Poland to not beat Sweden - could be done. Sweden are pretty sturdy, and whilst Poland were poor in the first game, they were much better last night. France to beat Portugal. Russia draw is fine even if Finland win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossman4 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: They are on -1 if we win so are we, Most goals scored I would imagine Yes sorry just seen that. Also just realised that Group C goes first tomorrow so Austria and Ukraine cant really take a chance and play out a 0-0, incase a freak Finland result happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, romanticscot said: There are plenty groups that can end up in our favor. At least one tomorrow will have 3rd with 3 points if not both. Both groups can still end up with third on 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Think a Russia draw is OK too with there goal difference. A draw is fine because that has Finland in 3rd with 3 points. Belgium will beat Finland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Just now, romanticscot said: A draw is fine because that has Finland in 3rd with 3 points. Belgium will beat Finland Will they though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Anyone know what happens if England lose 2-0 and we win 1-0? Same points, same goals scored, conceded and against the same teams? Unlikely, I know, but there is still a small chance we could finish ahead of England in 2nd place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjd1972 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 A Denmark win over Russia tomorrow would swing that group for us, even a draw would be OK. Denmark could end up finishing second on 3 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted June 20, 2021 Author Share Posted June 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Think a Russia draw is OK too with there goal difference. Yes as long as Belgium beat Finland. If Finland draw they'd be the third placed side as Russia beat them in the head-to-head. so Belgium would have 7 points, Russia 4 points and Finland 4 points with at worse level goal difference which would mean we'd need a three goal win V Croatia to finish above them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Will they though? It is possible right enough for Finland to draw but I have no fear that would happen. Edited June 20, 2021 by romanticscot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted June 20, 2021 Author Share Posted June 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tartan blood said: Anyone know what happens if England lose 2-0 and we win 1-0? Same points, same goals scored, conceded and against the same teams? Unlikely, I know, but there is still a small chance we could finish ahead of England in 2nd place. It then comes down to disciplinary record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Caledonian Craig said: Yes as long as Belgium beat Finland. If Finland draw they'd be the third placed side as Russia beat them in the head-to-head. so Belgium would have 7 points, Russia 4 points and Finland 4 points with at worse level goal difference which would mean we'd need a three goal win V Croatia to finish above them. It's getting worse by the minute. Belgium are here to win the whole thing, if they don't rest 11 players I will be surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted June 20, 2021 Author Share Posted June 20, 2021 1 minute ago, romanticscot said: It is possible right enough but I have no fear it won't happen. That is the worry. A draw would suit both teams there. Belgium, I reckon, are guaranteed to rest players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Tartan blood said: Anyone know what happens if England lose 2-0 and we win 1-0? Same points, same goals scored, conceded and against the same teams? Unlikely, I know, but there is still a small chance we could finish ahead of England in 2nd place. That scenario I believe it goes to who has scored the most, then who has conceded less and then some funky penalty shoot out that I have no idea how the logistics of that would happen but truthfully it's better than pulling a team fae a hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Well Turkey scoring means we are the only side not to have scored. We go into Croatia 'just' having to win by 2 goals, probably. We have not won a tournament game for 25 years. We have not scored more than one goal in 29 years (and that was when we were already out) Still, hope dies hard. We're at home and it could yet be in our hands. Â Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Just now, Caledonian Craig said: That is the worry. A draw would suit both teams there. Belgium, I reckon, are guaranteed to rest players. Finland and Russia will probably both win leaving three teams on 6 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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