Redz Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, Mox said: You're right btw, Hearts and Thistle have been shafted. Hertz fuck ups had feck all to do with 8 sheep and 1 Tim thinking they were unaccountable months later Fuck them and that dipped cunt too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redz Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 3 hours ago, dandydunn said: I said they should forfeit the points too, or be forced to play with a weakened squad. Can’t see how they can make up a rule and then ban people that break it before hand. Yep, no one associated with AFC would disagree with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Beem Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 2 hours ago, dipped flake said: The only club penalised for the Aberdeen and Celtic fiasco is Hearts. You honestly couldn't make up how inept and corrupt Scottish football is but the vast majority of clubs have shown by their actions that they are happy to go along with it all. Thankfully all this does is unite the Hearts support and ensure our club will come back stronger. Having your season and plans put on hold due to the actions of another club that had nothing to do with you ? As a United fan, you’ll excuse my lack of sympathy for Hearts on this occasion, even though they have a point. Fuck them. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Hearts do appear to have been caught in the crossfire a bit here. Will end up with a chip on their shoulder the size of their Govan brethren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 Any of the clubs in Scotland involved in the League Cup should be able to train if they follow the protocols. (The decision against reconstruction is going to haunt Scottish football for a long time.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 8 hours ago, Jim Beem said: Having your season and plans put on hold due to the actions of another club that had nothing to do with you ? As a United fan, you’ll excuse my lack of sympathy for Hearts on this occasion, even though they have a point. Fuck them. 👍 No no no, Hearts have some how borrowed the victim card and theyre not giving it back. 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 9 hours ago, Redz said: Yep, no one associated with AFC would disagree with that This is going to get ugly. It is scottish football after all. The clubs have fined and punished their own players but that wont be enough for the media hacks and fans of other clubs. They all want blood. This time one of the big 2 are in the firing line and i just cant see celtic being punished heavily, especially this season. I preidict lengthy bans for every player involved and a financial penalty for the clubs. A points deduction would show some set of balls by the disciplinary committee and it would be the right decision for once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 Ive seen a few people bring up rangers in this debate. What actually happened against dundee united? Did they fail to test players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McTeeko Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 1 hour ago, vanderark14 said: Ive seen a few people bring up rangers in this debate. What actually happened against dundee united? Did they fail to test players? They were tested, but there were stories of them playing the match before they received the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolling hIlls Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 46 minutes ago, McTeeko said: They were tested, but there were stories of them playing the match before they received the results. If they had we would have found out about it by now. Both clubs aren't that stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 2 hours ago, McTeeko said: They were tested, but there were stories of them playing the match before they received the results. 1 hour ago, Rolling hIlls said: If they had we would have found out about it by now. Both clubs aren't that stupid. https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/fp/rangers-fc-dundee-united-friendly-covid-19-coronavirus/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu101 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, sbcmfc said: https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/fp/rangers-fc-dundee-united-friendly-covid-19-coronavirus/ https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-motherwell-hibs-escape-sfa-22463659 They were cleared, as were Hibs and Motherwell. The confusion seemingly was due to the time of day when the previous round of tests were taken. The guidance was updated on the back of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 16 hours ago, dandydunn said: I said they should forfeit the points too, or be forced to play with a weakened squad. Can’t see how they can make up a rule and then ban people that break it before hand. I think being made to play the games with a weakened squad sounds reasonable (in Celtic's case it's arguable how much weakened they'd actually be!). If, for whatever reason, the teams in question can't fulfil the fixtures, then they forfeit three points to the opposition - where's the fairness in them being messed around when they've done nothing wrong? Bringing in rules retrospectively to penalise clubs seems totally against basic justice. Then again, it wouldn't be the first time this year Scottish football authorities have punished clubs for circumstances beyond their control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu101 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, scotlad said: I think being made to play the games with a weakened squad sounds reasonable (in Celtic's case it's arguable how much weakened they'd actually be!). If, for whatever reason, the teams in question can't fulfil the fixtures, then they forfeit three points to the opposition - where's the fairness in them being messed around when they've done nothing wrong? Bringing in rules retrospectively to penalise clubs seems totally against basic justice. Then again, it wouldn't be the first time this year Scottish football authorities have punished clubs for circumstances beyond their control. Plus if the games are played when fans are allowed back in the stadium, then they should be played behind closed doors. Then you dont get the clubs having the advantage of having fans back, and making money out of it. Fulfilling the fixtures/ deductiing points is a hard one. What if the club does everything by the book, and yet infections still occur? We are still not 100% sure how the virus really spreads. Celtic will be pretty fucked by this, unless they drop out of Europe/Scottish Cup at an early stage. The SPFL are already are on the verge of not having enough time to play the season. Plus, I doubt these will be the last lot of fixtures suspended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 5 hours ago, Rolling hIlls said: If they had we would have found out about it by now. Both clubs aren't that stupid. 'Both' clubs aren't being accused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolling hIlls Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Scotty CTA said: 'Both' clubs aren't being accused. Which one is then Scotty? And accused by who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolling hIlls Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 Away for my Glenlivet. Where is Ramy when I need him to take the pressure off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Rolling hIlls said: Which one is then Scotty? And accused by who? It seems the only the question is of the results of The Rangers second XI and not of Dundee United. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolling hIlls Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 36 minutes ago, Scotty CTA said: It seems the only the question is of the results of The Rangers second XI and not of Dundee United. But who is questioning it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redz Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 13 hours ago, vanderark14 said: This is going to get ugly. It is scottish football after all. The clubs have fined and punished their own players but that wont be enough for the media hacks and fans of other clubs. They all want blood. This time one of the big 2 are in the firing line and i just cant see celtic being punished heavily, especially this season. I preidict lengthy bans for every player involved and a financial penalty for the clubs. A points deduction would show some set of balls by the disciplinary committee and it would be the right decision for once. I think playing the postponed games behind closed doors with a team, minus the dafties, would suffice personally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 I feel Aberdeen would be disproportionately punished if the 8 players were suspended. What they did was a bit daft and bending the rules. They are a bit unfortunate to have been in the wrong place at the wrong time. Had their not been a local outbreak, they’d have got away with it. Bolingoli is one player, but what he did was on a whole different planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 Better performance by Motherwell tonight from what I saw. My main take on tonight’s game is that 530 KO is useless if you’re at home with young kids. 😂 Seen the disallowed goal given plenty tunes, be raging if it was given against us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Hearts paying six figures for Neilson and United getting both shot of him with Micky Mellon in place of him, makes Ann Budge United's MVP. Motherwell looked a lot better tonight. This may well be the year Accies go down. St Mirren will be fine. Mon Livi tomorrow and scelp Rangers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 10 hours ago, sbcmfc said: I feel Aberdeen would be disproportionately punished if the 8 players were suspended. What they did was a bit daft and bending the rules. They are a bit unfortunate to have been in the wrong place at the wrong time. Had their not been a local outbreak, they’d have got away with it. Bolingoli is one player, but what he did was on a whole different planet. Celtic and some of their support will likely be hapoy if Bolingoli gets suspended. A lengthy suspension and fine from the SPFL will deter players from doing it again but at the same time the SPFL dont need to cross swords with celtic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 22 hours ago, Rolling hIlls said: But who is questioning it? Lots of fans on different forums, but nothing official that I can see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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