thplinth Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 22 hours ago, Barney Rubble said: Not certain to be honest. But you are quite clearly a prick. 22 hours ago, Barney Rubble said: Aye OK - prick. Ahhh so abusive and sweary when it suits you Rubble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonny79 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, thplinth said: Ahhh so abusive and sweary when it suits you Rubble. It's what ppl do when they have a lost an argument or have no points of their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Most folk have probably seen this, being a Facebook virgin I need to wait for someone to pass things on 🙂 https://m.facebook.com/Standupforscotland/videos/2603970099834842/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, thplinth said: Ahhh so abusive and sweary when it suits you Rubble. Very much so when it comes to dealing with idiots. I notice you didn't find your way to meeting me in Glasgow before the Belgium game. Any reason why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Bonny79 said: It's what ppl do when they have a lost an argument or have no points of their own. TBH I wouldn't mind normally but he recently had a go at me for for saying the 'cunts' who feed the trolls are just as bad as them... and here he is losing his temper with the same trolls, using profane language and calling folk 'pricks'. Sort your own house out before acting all lofty would be my advice. I'll say one thing for you bonny at least you got a sense of humour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, thplinth said: TBH I wouldn't mind normally but he recently had a go at me for for saying the 'cunts' who feed the trolls are just as bad as them... and here he is losing his temper with the same trolls, using profane language and calling folk 'pricks'. Sort your own house out before acting all lofty would be my advice. I'll say one thing for you bonny at least you got a sense of humour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 minute ago, thplinth said: TBH I wouldn't mind normally but he recently had a go at me for for saying the 'cunts' who feed the trolls are just as bad as them... and here he is losing his temper with the same trolls, using profane language and calling folk 'pricks'. Sort your own house out before acting all lofty would be my advice. I'll say one thing for you bonny at least you got a sense of humour. Excellent deflection - you of all people to accuse anyone of using profane language. You can start a flame war by keeping this going, or you can show a modicum of humility and dignity by arriving at a truce. Your choice. Which is it to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCTA Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Eisegerwind said: 0 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said: Excellent deflection - you of all people to accuse anyone of using profane language. You can start a flame war by keeping this going, or you can show a modicum of humility and dignity by arriving at a truce. Your choice. Which is it to be? I was just pointing out your hypocrisy. You are a massive offender when it comes to feeding the trolls. Then suddenly when things dont go your way with them swearing and abuse at them is just fine. You had a go at me for telling you not to reply to them. Why do you keep feeding them? You seem to need them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 6 hours ago, aaid said: Are you now prepared to accept that Glasgow isn't going back to Labour any time soon? One thing that the SNP have traditionally found difficult has been to translate their underlying support across the country into seats at UK elections, with certain geographical exceptions which now ironically appear to have "deserted" them. A lot of that has to do with a struggle to appear relevant in a contest that is always going to be between the Tories and Labour and FPTP has really been their enemy. Undoubtedly Holyrood has helped hugely as that's given them a voice both in opposition and in power and has gotten more people into the habit of voting SNP whereas in the past they'd have voted Labour most likely. You saw this between the two SNP Holyrood victories in 2007 and 2011, in the 2010 GE, they got 20% of the vote and only 6 seats, whereas Labour got 41 seats off 42% of the vote. That's all changed since 2014 of course and now FPTP is their friend as they're the only party for the 50% or so who support Indy. The other difference is that they've shown themselves to be a very effective party of opposition in Westminster, certainly more effective than the official opposition, so the issue of relevance is no longer the problem it once was. Erm i am not sure i never stated it would go back labour, however its not a time to play with electorate and become cocky, we have fought hard to regain these seats so lets not get complacent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, thplinth said: I was just pointing out your hypocrisy. You are a massive offender when it comes to feeding the trolls. Then suddenly when things dont go your way with them swearing and abuse at them is just fine. You had a go at me for telling you not to reply to them. Why do you keep feeding them? You seem to need them. I have no idea what you are talking about. Feeding trolls? Who are they then? Your fascination with my posts over the last couple of years is becoming creepy. I've no interest in having a go at you or your friend Rossy or anyone else. I can accept a different viewpoint, but when it becomes personal, as it has done in this case, then everyone needs to take a step back. It's a football fans' message board not the Tablets of Stone that Moses brought from the mountain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, hampden_loon2878 said: Erm i am not sure i never stated it would go back labour, however its not a time to play with electorate and become cocky, we have fought hard to regain these seats so lets not get complacent I'm sure it was at the same time you said the NE would turn back yellow again but I'm only pulling your leg. Nothing to be gained by taking any vote for granted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Hmmm... when you click 'All Activity' all posts come up including yours. These were very noticeable to me for the high levels of personal abuse and swearing. That made me think you were a hypocrite for complaining to me. It is really not that hard to work out. Rossy hated me so I think you are bit stupid at this point. If you are saying lets never ever interact again... I accept that deal. Merry Christmas Barney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisegerwind Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Jeez, FFS, another big fat 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 minute ago, thplinth said: Hmmm... when you click 'All Activity' all posts come up including yours. These were very noticeable to me for the high levels of personal abuse and swearing. That made me think you were a hypocrite for complaining to me. It is really not that hard to work out. Rossy hated me so I think you are bit stupid at this point. If you are saying lets never ever interact again... I accept that deal. Merry Christmas Barney. Says it all really. Glad to have that conclusively sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 If you think Rossy is my friend you are stupid. What board have you been reading all these years?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonny79 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 50 minutes ago, thplinth said: TBH I wouldn't mind normally but he recently had a go at me for for saying the 'cunts' who feed the trolls are just as bad as them... and here he is losing his temper with the same trolls, using profane language and calling folk 'pricks'. Sort your own house out before acting all lofty would be my advice. I'll say one thing for you bonny at least you got a sense of humour. I do try. Gotta get my point across 🤗 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Bonny79 said: I do try. Gotta get my point across 🤗 I admire your indefatigability. When Paul Dickov gets the job we will know you have won, on all fronts. Edited December 15, 2019 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 I was actually quite honoured when thplinth called me "one odd fecker", my friends have been calling me that for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonny79 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 1 hour ago, thplinth said: I admire your indefatigability. When Paul Dickov gets the job we will know you have won, on all fronts. Yes. Next Scottish manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Just been hearing about that seriously dirty campaign the Tories had been waging in Lanark & Hamilton East. They definetly played the "orange card" and went out of their way to remind voters in certain areas of the constituency that the SNP's Angela Crawley is a Catholic. Tellingly, Crawley had this to say about the Labour candidate but not the Tory one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 The penny finally drops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Separating themselves from UK labour needs to happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfieMoon Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, aaid said: The penny finally drops. I’m not sure the penny has dropped at all. Still striking out at the SNP in the final paragraph. The listening exercise is just a common sense thing to say but the rest of the statement seems riddled with confusion. It’s just a typical empty statement to me - hinting at some sort of devo max +++ , and of course the need for a Scottish Labour Government to address the ills of SNP failures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 40 minutes ago, AlfieMoon said: I’m not sure the penny has dropped at all. Still striking out at the SNP in the final paragraph. The listening exercise is just a common sense thing to say but the rest of the statement seems riddled with confusion. It’s just a typical empty statement to me - hinting at some sort of devo max +++ , and of course the need for a Scottish Labour Government to address the ills of SNP failures. It's a recognition that the status quo is not sustainable and that's a start. Although it doesn't mention anything in there about dropping their opposition to a second referendum, there's been enough comments over the weekend, in particular from people close to the leadership that that's not a sustainable position anymore, so I'd expect that to follow. Nobody should be fooled that there's been any form of Damascene conversion to Independence from Labour - and no doubt this is driven primarily by reasons of self-interest or even self-preservation but any softening from any of the opposition needs to be seen as a positive. i suspect they'll probably try and push some form of devomax or quasi-federal solution but there's a couple of problems with that, it's not a feasible proposal within the constraints of the UK and there's no real enthusiasm for it anywhere else. Even if it were deliverable, they're in no position to deliver it anyway. If they ever go the full way and fully support Indy - which I can't see happening - surely another party putting forward a different vision for Indy is no bad thing and the more Indy starts to look like a cross party project the more difficult it becomes to argue against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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