er yir macaroon Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) Great stuff. Some Hornby Humble Pie for some, as i say, he’s a nailed on centre forward for the full team within the next 2 seasons. Robbie McRorie was very good in goal, and I don’t think we have too much to worry about there. Edited September 11, 2018 by er yir macaroon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 minute ago, McDange said: Great stuff. 5 goals in 2 games for Hornby is encouraging It is. Also a wide range of goals from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry george Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Lost the stream for the last 10 minutes - damn! Real backs to the wall stuff - I'd hate to see the possession statistics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 So annoying that we drew with Latvia and Andorra...we would be fighting England for first instead of Ukraine and Netherlands for 2nd. Next match is Ukraine away and it's pretty much a must win again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: Great stuff. Some Hornby Humble Pie for some, as i say, he’s a nailed on centre forward for the full team within the next 2 seasons. Robbie McRorie was very good in goal, and I don’t think we have too much to worry about there. Me as well but I hadnt really seen enough I guess. 5 in 2 good at any level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 On 9/6/2018 at 9:29 PM, PASTA Mick said: A wins a win but I can't see us getting another point in this campaign. Netherlands and Ukraine away and then England at home. Very tricky without Morgan, Mcburnie and Burke. Ahem..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWMM82 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Fantastic result......Ukraine had to rely on a goal 3 mins from time to beat Andorra at home as well! Never seen the game. Was it “backs-to-the-wall”?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWMM82 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Call me fussy but would be nice to beat a team like the Netherlands, and do it by playing good football and it not being backs-to-wall!😝 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Just now, SWMM82 said: Call me fussy but would be nice to beat a team like the Netherlands, and do it by playing good football and it not being backs-to-wall!😝 The u17s have been doing that kind of thing. Given we were missing Morgan, Burke and Cochrane i think we did pretty well. It wasn’t totally one sided, but we certainly dug in and defended well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: Ahem..... Very happy to be proved wrong. The performance in Andorra was terrible but they've given themselves a chance. The next two matches are still very difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlueScot Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 What's the thoughts on Gemmill? He's doing a good job and so what's the potential of him as the eventual replacement for McLeish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASTA Mick Posted September 11, 2018 Author Share Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SkyBlueScot said: What's the thoughts on Gemmill? He's doing a good job and so what's the potential of him as the eventual replacement for McLeish? I like him. Although Latvia at home and Albania away were both awful performances the two against the Dutch were very positive. I think he is still learning but could be a good manager for us in the future. Edited September 11, 2018 by PASTA Mick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 37 minutes ago, SkyBlueScot said: What's the thoughts on Gemmill? He's doing a good job and so what's the potential of him as the eventual replacement for McLeish? That should be the succession plan No doubt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookerman Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Great result for the under 21''s but even if we where too win our next 2 games, may not be enough for a playoff place. As only the best 4 second places team make the playoffs. Droping 4 points to Andorra and Latvia may come back to haunt us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 17 minutes ago, bookerman said: Great result for the under 21''s but even if we where too win our next 2 games, may not be enough for a playoff place. As only the best 4 second places team make the playoffs. Droping 4 points to Andorra and Latvia may come back to haunt us. You can’t expect to qualify if you don’t beat teams like Andorra home and away and Latvia at home. Same old story for a Scotland team. Struggle against the ‘lesser’ teams and do fairly well against the top teams. Hopefully they’ll end the campaign with another 2 wins and it’s enough for a playoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefaetheferry Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 6 hours ago, bookerman said: Great result for the under 21''s but even if we where too win our next 2 games, may not be enough for a playoff place. As only the best 4 second places team make the playoffs. Droping 4 points to Andorra and Latvia may come back to haunt us. The results against the bottom side are taken off for the purpose of determining the 4 best runners up - a rule which just might benefit us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookerman Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 8 hours ago, killiefaetheferry said: The results against the bottom side are taken off for the purpose of determining the 4 best runners up - a rule which just might benefit us. it matter if we finished a point behind second as them extra 4 points would more of less guaranted us a playoff place. Assuming we win our last 2 games. We droped 2 points either way for the playoff postions for dropping points to the bottom 2 teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 WE should cap Hornby in a competitive match to bag him now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Malcolm said: WE should cap Hornby in a competitive match to bag him now. Bring him on in the last two minutes v Israel. Nah being serious we shouldn't be capping guys on the basis of they might switch. He does look good though but the u21 level is a long way of senior level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I think based on his current form Hornby's done enough to earn a run-out for the senior side. Okay, he's not anywhere near established in the Everton team but Wales and even England often cap talented youngsters who aren't first-team regulars at club level, and it hasn't done either of them much harm lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 34 minutes ago, scotlad said: I think based on his current form Hornby's done enough to earn a run-out for the senior side. Okay, he's not anywhere near established in the Everton team but Wales and even England often cap talented youngsters who aren't first-team regulars at club level, and it hasn't done either of them much harm lately. Have to disagree, if he had played a good few first team games for everton, like say 15 or so then yes. But giving him a senior cap because he's scored for the u21s is not a good idea. The u21s is a long way off the senior level. The chances of Hornby making it at Everton are slim. Once he's making a few appearances for everton or playing regularly for a championship team then we should look to be capping him. He's barely played any professional football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 5 hours ago, mccaughey85 said: Have to disagree, if he had played a good few first team games for everton, like say 15 or so then yes. But giving him a senior cap because he's scored for the u21s is not a good idea. The u21s is a long way off the senior level. The chances of Hornby making it at Everton are slim. Once he's making a few appearances for everton or playing regularly for a championship team then we should look to be capping him. He's barely played any professional football. How do you know the chances are slim? Default negativity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 39 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: How do you know the chances are slim? Default negativity. Just basic numbers really, how many of Everton's youth players make it to be first team regulars. I would guess it's few and far between. Guys got a decent chance but reality is the odds are against him. Hopefully he does make it at Everton or somewhere similar and we can then cap him based on that rather than cap someone who has played one pro game in his whole career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 hour ago, mccaughey85 said: Just basic numbers really, how many of Everton's youth players make it to be first team regulars. I would guess it's few and far between. Guys got a decent chance but reality is the odds are against him. Hopefully he does make it at Everton or somewhere similar and we can then cap him based on that rather than cap someone who has played one pro game in his whole career. He turns 19 today and has already played for the first team. His chances are not slim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan_McCole Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: He turns 19 today and has already played for the first team. His chances are not slim. Aye, I've heard from Everton fans to say we'd be as well capping him sooner rather than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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