DaveyDenoon Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 (edited) The Dug has quit. What now for Scottish Labour, whatever is left of it...? Edited August 29, 2017 by DaveyDenoon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Right now old man Sarwar will be on the phone pushing his complete dimwit of a son into standing for the leadership. He'd be great from an SNP point of view. Neil Findlay may struggle to get the nominations of his fellow Labour MSP's. In parliament he's considered by his "comrades" to be an idiot with a big mouth and a very high opinion of himself. He's also a coward who didn't own up when caught out calling Nicola Sturgeon a liar in parliament and refuses to publicly admit that he's pro-Brexit. Could see Iain Gray with his big ego standing again but don't think he'll win it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Resigned via WhatsApp! You'd think someone sympathetic to Corbyn would be the obvious (and sensible) choice. This is Scottish Labour though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I enjoyed her incompetence. I hope its Sarwar a bigger diddy you couldnae find. I think Findley will get it, his daugter is also an MP noo, and he is pally wi the lassie who is the Labour lassie for Gordon Browns seat. the Labour Scottish Secretary ... It will need tae be a corbyite.... is this why we have been seeing big Broonie on the telly this week..... or mibee Bring back Donahue , ayrshires finest.... ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 8 minutes ago, stocky said: I think Findley will get it, his daugter is also an MP noo, Alex Rowley you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Just now, Toepoke said: Alex Rowley you mean? aye, gettin ma Labour naebidies mixed up...... ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Going by his Twitter output, Neil Findlay's a complete bampot. Almost a Slab Murdo Fraser. Not that being a bampot will stop him from throwing his hat in the ring, on the contrary. I reckon they'll keep in line with what's going on down south (as per) and go left. Failing that, it'll be Baillie or Sarwar. A thankless task whoever gets the job though. Until Labour softens its stance on the constitution I can't see them getting very far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I was told by a very wise shetland lady that in a relationship there is always one who cares more for the other than is returned, hopefully kez has fell head over heels for her current snp msp girlfriend and gives labour a indy voice haha if only ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flumax Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 It was about time for the annual Scottish labour leadership contest. 6 in 6y. Surely that means 10-15%of labour msps have had a shot at the top job. As someone who voted Labour more than snp, I still think there is a place for them, but they need to sort it out for the good of democracy. Would like to think other half and dad had a role, but I think JC is sticking the boot in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampden_loon2878 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 In all honesty she was a good showcase for indy,,possibly a liability for labour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Neil Findlay categorically ruled himself out yesterday from ever standing - so no doubt that means he'll stand. Anyone thinking that it will automatically be a Corbynite should remember that SLab voted for Owen Smith last year. There hasn't been the same surge of new Labour members in Scotland as in England. Unless there's someone in the background that's currently unknown then you can't see who from their MSPs has the talent, commitment or inclination to take the job. Kezia was the best of a bad bunch, the rest are even worse. I also reckon Kez will go on a bit of a journey and will come out for Indy next time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Comes off the back of a five day Corbyn visit which by all accounts was very successful. I personally think she did a decent job from when she took over but her decision to focus on the SNP more than the Tories in the recent GE was a mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, EddardStark said: her decision to focus on the SNP more than the Tories in the recent GE was a mistake. Undoubtedly. It might have cost her boss a shot at number 10 and I'm sure he was well aware of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 14 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Undoubtedly. It might have cost her boss a shot at number 10 and I'm sure he was well aware of that. That's sounds plausible until you remember that Corbyn's recent tour of Scotland only targeted SNP held constituencies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 10 hours ago, Toepoke said: Resigned via WhatsApp! You'd think someone sympathetic to Corbyn would be the obvious (and sensible) choice. This is Scottish Labour though... Chance now for Labour in Scotland to become a real progressive force and stop deluded folk from seeing Tory as an alternative to SNP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapofGlencoe Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 hope Labour get their act together. Think the idea of the Tories becoming the main opposition is worrying. If the two big parties of Scotland are left of centre at least you feel it won't go completely mental. I think members of the scottish tories seem embarrassed to be Scots. Can't see them fighting our corner in any negotiations against a whole UK agenda. I look forward to voting for a left party one day without having to worry about the Constitution and rights of the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 16 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: Chance now for Labour in Scotland to become a real progressive force and stop deluded folk from seeing Tory as an alternative to SNP. Two chances. Nane and eff-aw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 8 minutes ago, aaid said: Two chances. Nane and eff-aw Wha? You think the most extreme right wing Tory party ever has more chance of being the main opposition to SNP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocky Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 19 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: Wha? You think the most extreme right wing Tory party ever has more chance of being the main opposition to SNP? It is the noo, 2nd highest no of MPs and second highest no of msps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 36 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: Wha? You think the most extreme right wing Tory party ever has more chance of being the main opposition to SNP? Going by the way folk vote, then Yes. It may be a shock to you but Scotland isn't some sort of left wing utopia. There are plenty here who'll gladly vote Tory regardless of the alternatives. The Thatcher years and the destruction they caused to Scotland are becoming less and less of a relevance (rightly or wrongly) when folk are voting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Third Lanark said: Wha? You think the most extreme right wing Tory party ever has more chance of being the main opposition to SNP? How are they the most extreme right wing party ever? If I was a stanch unionist then voting Tory regardless of policy would be an idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: If I was a stanch unionist then voting Tory regardless of policy would be an idea. They have very cleverly placed themselves as the only choice if you support the union in the recent GE. Anecdotally some of the more right wing voters would've gone Tory anyway, but many working class traditional labour voters saw them as the only choice to stop the SNP in the recent elections. And stopping "that" Nicola Sturgeon is mainly what the GE was fought on in Scotland, which suited the tories, despite Nicola Sturgeon being an MSP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaddypeekey Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 4 hours ago, aaid said: Neil Findlay categorically ruled himself out yesterday from ever standing - so no doubt that means he'll stand. Anyone thinking that it will automatically be a Corbynite should remember that SLab voted for Owen Smith last year. There hasn't been the same surge of new Labour members in Scotland as in England. Unless there's someone in the background that's currently unknown then you can't see who from their MSPs has the talent, commitment or inclination to take the job. Kezia was the best of a bad bunch, the rest are even worse. I also reckon Kez will go on a bit of a journey and will come out for Indy next time around. She never sounded as if her heart was in the No campaign. It was as if she felt she had to go no. She probably voted Yes at the Ballot box. Her and wee Ruth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaddypeekey Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Squirrelhumper said: Going by the way folk vote, then Yes. It may be a shock to you but Scotland isn't some sort of left wing utopia. There are plenty here who'll gladly vote Tory regardless of the alternatives. The Thatcher years and the destruction they caused to Scotland are becoming less and less of a relevance (rightly or wrongly) when folk are voting. Another reason we never got Yes. People were put off with the "Socialist Utopia" line put forward by a lot of the Yes camp. Thers a very good reason the Tories are second in Scotland and it's not because they are pro union. It's because the Labour Party sold their soul during the referendum, and the Tories aren't the SNP. A fair proportion of Scottish Conservative voters will be Pro Indy, just not Pro Socialist Utopia/SNP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 4 hours ago, aaid said: That's sounds plausible until you remember that Corbyn's recent tour of Scotland only targeted SNP held constituencies. Understandable that he's going after the most winnable seats. However there appears to have been a lot of Labour voters who went Tory to take seats off the SNP, as Kezia pretty much advocated... http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/807559/Kezia-Dugdale-Nicola-Sturgeon-SNP-Scottish-independence-poll-Ruth-Davidson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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