Fairbairn Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 On 02/12/2016 at 1:19 PM, Blackpool78 said: Wonder if Rangers fans will still use it to point score with Celtic fans Given the banner that was on display from fans of another club at the weekend I think it's a bit unfair to single out Rangers fans as the only ones who try and score points on this subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 Just watched Mark Daly's film there, absolutely chilling seeing that poor guy who suffered for years, similar age to myself and from the same part of the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 See there's a front pager with an ex Falkirk Hibaldstow and Celtic youth coach/ kitman admitting to being a beast. Actually thanks he was doing kids a favour. He should be hung. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 10 hours ago, Debian said: See there's a front pager with an ex Falkirk Hibaldstow and Celtic youth coach/ kitman admitting to being a beast. Actually thanks he was doing kids a favour. He should be hung. Why do all these bastards seem to think that because it happened to them they can do it to other people to make themselves feel better If someone breaks in to your house you wouldn't break in to your neighbours to make yourself feel better so why do some folk tamper with bairns in that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLAS Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 48 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: Why do all these bastards seem to think that because it happened to them they can do it to other people to make themselves feel better I haven't seen the story but there's psychology behind being sexually abused as a child making the victim more likely to do it themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cove_Sheep Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Seems there's been a development with Thistle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 23 minutes ago, OLAS said: I haven't seen the story but there's psychology behind being sexually abused as a child making the victim more likely to do it themselves. I wasn't specifically meaning to the two who came out in the papers today, just in general when you read these things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 3 hours ago, Cove_Sheep said: Seems there's been a development with Thistle... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-38242371 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biffer Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 No mention of this yet? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-38245187 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 1 hour ago, biffer said: No mention of this yet? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-38245187 Saw his "apology" video. Very strange indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euan2020 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 a wonder this is not kicking off in other countries - must have been similar events there is past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 What I'm struggling with is why clubs wouldn't have did more to report what was going on? These aren't important people they've essentially protected, not like politicians etc . .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 1 hour ago, ParisInAKilt said: What I'm struggling with is why clubs wouldn't have did more to report what was going on? These aren't important people they've essentially protected, not like politicians etc . .. There were very different attitudes to child abuse in those days. Children were often not believed if they came forward and even when there was evidence it would often be "swept under the carpet". In some cases that would have been to protect either a powerful or important individual or in a lot of cases from a mistaken belief that it would be protecting the victim. Thankfully we are in a much better position these days in respect of our understanding but it's always dangerous to apply contemporary views and values to the actions of people in even the recent past. That isn't to say that to cover up child abuse was the right thing to do then but it helps to understand why it happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auchinyell Sox Change Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 11 hours ago, ParisInAKilt said: What I'm struggling with is why clubs wouldn't have did more to report what was going on? These aren't important people they've essentially protected, not like politicians etc . .. Aye it's not like certain clubs to turn a blind eye.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debian Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 It's all good and well Tommy Burns sacking McCafferty, but why not report it to the police. Always had a lot of respect for him, but that's poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLAS Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 On 07/12/2016 at 7:49 PM, Cove_Sheep said: Seems there's been a development with Thistle... I was a ball boy in 92/93. Can't say the name rings a bell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euan2020 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 On 12/8/2016 at 10:07 PM, Debian said: It's all good and well Tommy Burns sacking McCafferty, but why not report it to the police. Always had a lot of respect for him, but that's poor. When did Tommy Burns employ McCafferty ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 On 07/12/2016 at 6:43 PM, OLAS said: I haven't seen the story but there's psychology behind being sexually abused as a child making the victim more likely to do it themselves. I'm not sure, but I think Jim Fairlie argued against that, it was years ago so can't remember the jist, Mind Calmac brought it up when arguing with Jim. Vague as feck on details, can just mind him saying the above isn't necessarily true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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