Orraloon Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The figures for tonights TNS poll are Yes 38, No 39, DK 23. Headline figure of 50/50 Do the just ignore the "Ahm no voting" folk? Polls are pish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The 6.30pm ITN news was one long Better Together propaganda feature. Did you see the STV bit showing Murphy in Musselburgh? Guy shouts at him "Whit dae ye mean we're better together? Look at the state o' the place" It made me laugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 Yes 41%; No 40%; DK 19% (Certain/Very Likely to vote). It's too close to call; don't stop campaigning yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The 6.30pm ITN news was one long Better Together propaganda feature. It wisna half. Their Westmonster guy Bradbury says, according to him, there's nae chance of us getting a currency union. Nice, balanced reporting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redz Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 My dad (Undecided/possible NO, Labour man) has just phoned saying he'd heard on the ITV (Scottish) news that the share price of Scottish Business's has taken a huge hit on the back of YES strengthening? Can anyone enlighten me as to what (if anything) was actually said so as I can go back to the doddery auld bugger and calm him doon! I'm determined to get a YES vote oot o' him yit...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 My dad (Undecided/possible NO, Labour man) has just phoned saying he'd heard on the ITV (Scottish) news that the share price of Scottish Business's has taken a huge hit on the back of YES strengthening? Can anyone enlighten me as to what (if anything) was actually said so as I can go back to the doddery auld bugger and calm him doon! I'm determined to get a YES vote oot o' him yit...... It's a threat to the UK government to let Scotland use the pound. The pound will collapse without Scotland. A currency union is best Gideon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe545 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) My dad (Undecided/possible NO, Labour man) has just phoned saying he'd heard on the ITV (Scottish) news that the share price of Scottish Business's has taken a huge hit on the back of YES strengthening? Can anyone enlighten me as to what (if anything) was actually said so as I can go back to the doddery auld bugger and calm him doon! I'm determined to get a YES vote oot o' him yit...... Hardly a surprise after they warned that they might move if it was yes. Relocation didn't come cheap especially with staff. Markets simply are reacting to the uncertainty. Edited September 8, 2014 by joe545 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brant grebner Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 My dad (Undecided/possible NO, Labour man) has just phoned saying he'd heard on the ITV (Scottish) news that the share price of Scottish Business's has taken a huge hit on the back of YES strengthening? Can anyone enlighten me as to what (if anything) was actually said so as I can go back to the doddery auld bugger and calm him doon! I'm determined to get a YES vote oot o' him yit...... read this: http://www.businessforscotland.co.uk/george-osborne-is-responsible-for-pound-devaluation/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstevie007 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 http://news.stv.tv/scotland-decides/analysis/291317-indyref-daily-stephen-daisley-on-independence-referendum-campaign/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) My dad (Undecided/possible NO, Labour man) has just phoned saying he'd heard on the ITV (Scottish) news that the share price of Scottish Business's has taken a huge hit on the back of YES strengthening? Can anyone enlighten me as to what (if anything) was actually said so as I can go back to the doddery auld bugger and calm him doon! I'm determined to get a YES vote oot o' him yit...... There was something in the business section of the Evening Standard today along those lines, but they (not exactly Yes-friendly) countered it themselves, by saying that if it came to it, everything would probably be sorted out. Arguably the problem is the uncertainty surrounding what would be the outcome of a Yes vote [rather than independence as such], which is something the UK Govt could move to fix, pronto, as soon as there was a Yes vote. In other words in the event of a Yes vote they could move to calm markets and make out independence wasn't so scary after all (my interpretation; and 'could' doesn't necessarily mean 'would') Edited September 8, 2014 by exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Here's the actual story http://www.standard.co.uk/business/markets/scottish-referendum-square-mile-sees-some-upside-in-a-yes-vote--chris-blackhurst-9718304.html "Their internal assessments had come to the same conclusions: that outstanding issues such as the Scots’ choice of currency and EU membership would quickly be resolved because they would have to be; that business would soon return to normal; that they would not be affected either way by a separate Scotland." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redz Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Appreciated. Thanks to all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Not enough quality control in place for street polls. Any street polling done in Dortmund yesterday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 TNS has it 50-50 per twitter 16% swing to Yes http://scotgoespop.blogspot.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) City reporter on Newsnight just said the market hates uncertainty, and the 2 sides will need to reach agreement asap after the vote - not 18 months. Also Niall Ferguson, just said BT campaign rubbish for being so negative, then said independent Scotland would be a disaster, like Belarus or Slovakia Edited September 8, 2014 by exile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave78 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 City reporter on Newsnight just said the market hates uncertainty, and the 2 sides will need to reach agreement asap after the vote - not 18 months. Also Niall Ferguson, just said BT campaign rubbish for being so negative, then said independent Scotland would be a disaster, like Belarus or Slovakia Ferguson was fantastic. It's hilarious watching all these 'proud Scots' panic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Also Niall Ferguson, just said BT campaign rubbish for being so negative, then said independent Scotland would be a disaster, like Belarus or Slovakia Tom Devine put him in his place... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alt-Del Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Ferguson was fantastic. It's hilarious watching all these 'proud Scots' panic. I've alerted the medical health authorities in Boston, so hopefully he's already receiving treatment. Maybe the worst case I've ever seen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weekevie04 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Ferguson was fantastic. It's hilarious watching all these 'proud Scots' panic. Yeah. We were howling at the moon (much like him on the 19th if it's a Yes) at his performance. Belarus is a new one I must add. I've heard Greece, Albania, Cuba and Iraq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Bob Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) Yeah. We were howling at the moon (much like him on the 19th if it's a Yes) at his performance. Belarus is a new one I must add. I've heard Greece, Albania, Cuba and Iraq. Don't forget Bangladesh. That was father of the nation Donald Dewars favourite.Or Alistair Darling's preference, Panama, trying to make us think of a Scotland as a early 20th century banana republic. But do a bit of reading on the Panamaian economy or look at pictures of Panama City - he's not really thought his insult through. Edited September 9, 2014 by Armchair Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacWalka Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Don't forget Bangladesh. That was father of the nation Donald Dewars favourite. Or Alistair Darling's preference, Panama, trying to make us think of a Scotland as a early 20th century banana republic. But do a bit of reading on the Panamaian economy or look at pictures of Panama City - he's not really thought his insult through. And if we end up with Panaman looking ladies, win-win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Don't forget Bangladesh. That was father of the nation Donald Dewars favourite. Or Alistair Darling's preference, Panama, trying to make us think of a Scotland as a early 20th century banana republic. But do a bit of reading on the Panamaian economy or look at pictures of Panama City - he's not really thought his insult through. Aye, they seem to have given up on the Panama insult angle. It took them a while but if nothing else this referendum has been a good educational tool for the ignorant. They just assumed that because it's foreign it must be shit. This attitude probably comes from spending too much time "in bed" with folk like UKIP and the BNP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maq Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Also Niall Ferguson, just said BT campaign rubbish for being so negative, then said independent Scotland would be a disaster, like Belarus or Slovakia Niall Ferguson has previous: http://m.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/time-to-liquidate-scotland-and-sell-off-her-assets-says-expat-historian-1-686107 Utter loony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Bob Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 And if we end up with Panaman looking ladies, win-win. I *demand* we become more like Panama! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maq Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Sky News this morning had the latest poll for Survation as 48% No, 42% Yes, 10% undecided Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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