Lamia Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I am slowly sinking like a stone..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 if its 47% yes then that means Survation shows no change. Makes me more convinced yougov was herding to save face as they were so far out. With 3% margin of error though, it is basically a dead heat (would be same other way round). Only concern is how this is jumped on by BBC/ITV/SKY etc as Yes stalling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld_Reekie Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Daily Record out the blocks early: 53% No; 47% Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Polls are pish. Ignore them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 User Actions Follow The Daily RecordVerified account@Daily_Record BREAKING. Our latest #indyref poll has 53% No, 47% Yes. More to follow. Reply Retweet Favorite More RETWEETS91 FAVORITES6 6:52 PM - 10 Sep 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Record clearly releasing that to catch 6pm news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld_Reekie Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) It essentially means there's been no change in the last couple of weeks which is very hard to believe. So either their data from weeks ago was wrong, or this data is wrong. There's no way support for both is unchanged. Edited September 10, 2014 by Auld_Reekie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 It essentially means there's been no change in the last couple of weeks which is very hard to believe. So either their data from weeks ago was wrong, or the data is wrong. There's no way support for both is unchanged. Maybe they just used the same numbers to save themselves a bit of work. They knew what result they wanted anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maq Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Hmmm, one way of looking at it, if you want to be an optimist... No: 47.6 Yes: 42.4 DK: 9.9 are the figures If undecideds really are favouring Yes by 2:1, then that becomes: 49% Yes 51% No So, neck and neck really.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 Survation/Daily Record: Yes - 47.1% (+0.2%) No - 52.9% (-0.2%) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maq Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Survation/Daily Record: Yes - 47.1% (+0.2%) No - 52.9% (-0.2%) Why the feck have they been teasing us all day with this 'very interesting' ballocks?! There's no change at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 ICM will release data soon, but... YouGov + TNS show massive Yes gains; Panelbase + Survation don't. Hmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelk Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 SENSATIONAL: No retakes the lead. Crushing blow for Salmond. Yes campaign faltering. Etc etc. The bias in the UK media in the last few days is actually beyond belief now. I'm not sure it even got that bad in the USSR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanday Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 The polls are disregarding the new intake to the registers - hundreds of thousands of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 I've just had a thought. Are Panelbase and Survation still herding (asking the same people)? YouGov have stopped doing that and the yes vote with them has surged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Decent poll news for BT. Still a way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Tarantula Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Some rough calculations I did on the tables of this poll (I posted this on SGP earlier): First thing I check for is the 16-24 age group with Survation. This fluctuates like crazy in terms of voting intentions. Last poll had 42% Yes, 45% No. This poll its 32% Yes, 50% No. Every single poll they have for this age group is never even close to one another. To make matters worse, as its been pointed out, this is up weighted by a factor of over 2. Just goes to show that they dont really know what they are doing with this age group. When it comes to the over 65s, however, the figures hardly change - they are stupidly similar. Most of the other groups show a modest increase for Yes of a few % points. If you remove the 16-24 year olds from this sample, then you have Yes on 44%, No on 47% and DK on 9%. Compared to the last poll, which showed the 4% increase for Yes, then excluding the 16-24 year olds you had figures of 41% for Yes, 47% for No, and DK on 12%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 (edited) Hold the phone guys and gals and breathe CORRECTION Fieldwork for Survation/Record IndyRef poll was Sept 5 - 9. So early fieldwork was before S Times YouGov YES lead poll came out Edited September 10, 2014 by Ally Bear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossy Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Decent poll news for BT. Still a way to go. Just out of interest, how do you feel about the disgusting attacks on scots in the pro union press ? Do you feel any shame at all when you read that stuff ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Unnamed MP from No tells @SkyNews that internal polling shows Yes lead. No are expecting to lose Aberdeen, Dundee and GLASGOW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstevie007 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Just put this on my FB page, urging every Yes voter never to buy it again, regardless of Referendum outcome. Let's get a campaign going to this Unionist rag out of business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgow jock Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Just put this on my FB page, urging every Yes voter never to buy it again, regardless of Referendum outcome. Let's get a campaign going to this Unionist rag out of business. Couldn't agree more, shameful absolutely shameful !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 @eurovicious: Survation shows NO 14 points ahead among 16-24 year olds. Yougov/TNS average shows YES 14 points ahead among 16-24 years olds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilser Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Unnamed MP from No tells @SkyNews that internal polling shows Yes lead. No are expecting to lose Aberdeen, Dundee and GLASGOW. I assumed that they'd got some absolutely horrendous private poll data before they decided to have the three stooges head up here and to wheel out Fighting John Prescott and John 'Back to Basics (but don't tell the wife)' Major. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Just watched C4 News where there was a debate amongst 16-17 year olds. Think one was voting No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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