dandydunn Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Just heard on the radio that the final will take place on 27th November next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Just like the old days... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Still think they should scrap the League Cup altogether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgow jock Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 20 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Just like the old days... Indeed much preferred the final in November, both cup finals are too close together imo. (although something tells me they where late October)?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Still quite like it. Would be a bit crap with just the 2 competitions and only Celtic being able to win won of them, at the moment anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 24 minutes ago, ErsatzThistle said: Still think they should scrap the League Cup altogether. Couldn't disagree more. They should scrap the Champions League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 35 minutes ago, glasgow jock said: Indeed much preferred the final in November, both cup finals are too close together imo. (although something tells me they where late October)?? They have been moved around quite a lot over the years. Some of them were played in December, going way back. From the early 80s to early 90s it was played at the end of October. Then it was moved to the end of November (that move might have been Champions League related?) until 2000 when it was moved to March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 59 minutes ago, ErsatzThistle said: Still think they should scrap the League Cup altogether. I think the winners should get a European place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 38 minutes ago, Orraloon said: I think the winners should get a European place. I think they would if we had more European places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Orraloon said: They have been moved around quite a lot over the years. Some of them were played in December, going way back. From the early 80s to early 90s it was played at the end of October. Then it was moved to the end of November (that move might have been Champions League related?) until 2000 when it was moved to March. Aye the first ones I remember from the mid 70s were just before Christmas. In 78 & 79 the finals were in the spring, then it moved back to December until it became the Skol Cup in 1984 and the final used to always be at the end of October on the Sunday the clocks went back. As mentioned the advent of the Champion's League meant it moved back to later in the year, and eventually back into the following spring. I think it was at its best when it finished in October, it felt more like a tournament with the rapid fire nature of the rounds (matches played to a finish with penalties were a novelty too). I seem to recall some of the football intellegentsia from down south saying they reckoned the Skol Cup was the most exciting domestic competition in Europe! Edited February 18, 2016 by Toepoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 1 hour ago, sbcmfc said: I think they would if we had more European places. One place for the League and one for each Cup. How many places do we need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonTheSlope Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Why can't they make it a Saturday FFS! Getting back for the open top bus is a hassle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 16 minutes ago, DoonTheSlope said: Why can't they make it a Saturday FFS! Getting back for the open top bus is a hassle Aye, it'll nearly be midnight in Dingwall... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 4 hours ago, ErsatzThistle said: Still think they should scrap the League Cup altogether. Spot on, been saying it for years. All it does is add more games and therefore more expense for fans and the games are predominantly during the week when folk are less inclined to attend and away fans less inclined to travel. Add into the fact that theres no european place for it it's almost a redundant tournament. The argument against is that a lot of 'smaller' or 'unfashionable' teams have won it in the past and it does give those teams and their supporters a day out at Hampden and the chance of a trophy which I fully appreciate. However, we've far too many games for a country of our size which already impact on attendances and getting rid of the league cup and just having The Scottish Cup would be to the long term benefit of the clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 24 minutes ago, Mox said: Spot on, been saying it for years. All it does is add more games and therefore more expense for fans and the games are predominantly during the week when folk are less inclined to attend and away fans less inclined to travel. Add into the fact that theres no european place for it it's almost a redundant tournament. The argument against is that a lot of 'smaller' or 'unfashionable' teams have won it in the past and it does give those teams and their supporters a day out at Hampden and the chance of a trophy which I fully appreciate. However, we've far too many games for a country of our size which already impact on attendances and getting rid of the league cup and just having The Scottish Cup would be to the long term benefit of the clubs. An easier solution would be to keep the League Cup and play less league games. And given our recent history, not having a Euro place for the winner is a plus point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 40 minutes ago, Toepoke said: An easier solution would be to keep the League Cup and play less league games. And given our recent history, not having a Euro place for the winner is a plus point! I take your first point but even if the league were expanded and therefore less games played, I'd still scrap the league cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenAngus Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 5 hours ago, adamntg said: Couldn't disagree more. They should scrap the Champions League. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggis McBasher Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 I'd be against scrapping the league cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Laud Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Ah 27th of november memories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcmfc Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 2 hours ago, Mox said: Spot on, been saying it for years. All it does is add more games and therefore more expense for fans and the games are predominantly during the week when folk are less inclined to attend and away fans less inclined to travel. Add into the fact that theres no european place for it it's almost a redundant tournament. The argument against is that a lot of 'smaller' or 'unfashionable' teams have won it in the past and it does give those teams and their supporters a day out at Hampden and the chance of a trophy which I fully appreciate. However, we've far too many games for a country of our size which already impact on attendances and getting rid of the league cup and just having The Scottish Cup would be to the long term benefit of the clubs. I've been to 3 away games this season, and 2 were in the league cup! i love a game under the lights! i don't understand how the size of the country impacts the number of games? Number of teams, you'd have a point. dont agree with any of what you said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 2 hours ago, Mox said: I take your first point but even if the league were expanded and therefore less games played, I'd still scrap the league cup. Easy to say when you support a team that's guaranteed trophies and cup finals on a regular basis. The more competitions the better for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 13 hours ago, Toepoke said: Easy to say when you support a team that's guaranteed trophies and cup finals on a regular basis. The more competitions the better for me. I understand that and therefore appreciate the argument. However, more competitions means more games and more expense and therefore less people actually attending. In an ideal world we'd have a league of 16, 30 games a season with a winter break between the middle of Dec to the end of Jan and the Scottish Cup as the only cup competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 9 minutes ago, Mox said: In an ideal world we'd have a league of 16, 30 games a season with a winter break between the middle of Dec to the end of Jan and the Scottish Cup as the only cup competition. That might be your idea world. It's not mines, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exglasgowasc Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 20 hours ago, dandydunn said: Just heard on the radio that the final will take place on 27th November next year. Thought it was this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandydunn Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 1 hour ago, Exglasgowasc said: Thought it was this year. 1 hour ago, Exglasgowasc said: Thought it was this year. Aye,was meant to edit year to season,but I simply couldn't be arsed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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