Jacques Hunt Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Very unlikely that anyone who watches Scotland will declare that they are confident we will qualify. England should win group and, unfortunately, our manager and players will be realistic enough to realise this. Maybe this will suit our mentality- underdogs. We have a chance to qualify but our limitations are well documented on these pages., especially defence. From www reports, Slovakia will be 2nd favs I reckon. Beginning to get nervous about Malta away. It would not be the greatest surprise if we did not win that one. I would be absolutely delighted and astounded if we took max points from Malta, Lithuania and Slovenia then 4 from Slovakia and it is feasible that we can get points from the English given that it is ,a funny old game' but there are a lot of cards needing to fall in our favour for all this to happen. All we can do is what we always do - get behind the team and support them, hope for the best. Be interested in opinion of how group will finish if most recent form is applied. Difficult to assess and I find myself hoping for games going against form and in our favour already. Just hope we are still in with a shout at end of campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Very unlikely that anyone who watches Scotland will declare that they are confident we will qualify. England should win group and, unfortunately, our manager and players will be realistic enough to realise this. Maybe this will suit our mentality- underdogs. We have a chance to qualify but our limitations are well documented on these pages., especially defence. From www reports, Slovakia will be 2nd favs I reckon. Beginning to get nervous about Malta away. It would not be the greatest surprise if we did not win that one. I would be absolutely delighted and astounded if we took max points from Malta, Lithuania and Slovenia then 4 from Slovakia and it is feasible that we can get points from the English given that it is ,a funny old game' but there are a lot of cards needing to fall in our favour for all this to happen. All we can do is what we always do - get behind the team and support them, hope for the best. Be interested in opinion of how group will finish if most recent form is applied. Difficult to assess and I find myself hoping for games going against form and in our favour already. Just hope we are still in with a shout at end of campaign. Wouldn't expect us to beat any of these teams away, or even really try to tbh. 4321 and a defensive slow pace playing out a boring draw or narrowly losing is all we are set up for at the moment. Pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Not even a tiny but confident we can get 2nd spot. Slovakia are a better side than us and our shitebag attitude in away games will cost us a few points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Rampant Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 No, I think we'll do well to finish 3rd in all honesty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 England have been good in qualifying and hopefully they win the group. Hopefully they finish bottom! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonny78 Posted December 8, 2015 Author Share Posted December 8, 2015 i'm confident we can give England a game especially at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giblet Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 nope, not confident at all for this campaign. Waiting to be pleasantly surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Laud Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Hoping for the best.That is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyshaker Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 With the realistic hat on, England will win 8 or 9 games minimum. If they're going to drop points then it's as well being against us, we're more than capable of nicking something in 1 of the fixtures. The key will be the other 4 away games, as isolated results defeats in Slovenia and Slovakia aren't the end of the world as long as we win the home games. However if we want to finish 2nd we should be looking for 4. As usual it's the banana skins that worry me but if we don't take 12 points off Malta and Lithuania then we don't deserve to finish above 4th. In summary, I think we'll finish 3rd! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ByronLoon1986 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 We've definitely got a chance of the playoff! What the fcuk is the point in following Scotland if you think we haven't a chance?? England will win the group then I think it will be between Scotland and Slovakia for second place! It all depends on how we start.. Must beat Malta, must beat Lithuania at Hampden and need to get something in Slovakia. England will beat us at Wembley (hate to say that) but it's reality! Know in us we'll probably make the playoffs, be on the verge of qualifying, then concede a goal in the dying seconds at Hampden to get knocked oot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Can't think of any reasons to be confident other than blind faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radian_13 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 When we play at Wembley, we need to have a minimum 7 points then park the bus snd try get a point haha!! Not too confident after the last campaign I'll take it game by game. Worried we concede too many and players not got the mental toughness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Second is possible, but I wouldn't be confident in a play off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 If we are going to have any chance of finishing 2nd, we firstly need to rely on England (who I am more than sure will win the group.....) not being like Germany and dropping silly points to Slovakia and Slovenia, and ultimately we need to win in Slovakia and (more importantly.....) over coming our curse of not coming away from Lithuania with full points. And with the exception of the last campaign - where their group was unbelievably easy - England have a habit of having at least dodgy result in qualifying. Can guarantee it won't be against us, they'll drop points to either Slovakia or Slovenia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 And with the exception of the last campaign - where their group was unbelievably easy - England have a habit of having at least dodgy result in qualifying. Can guarantee it won't be against us, they'll drop points to either Slovakia or Slovenia. Agree, this will be a much harder group for them (though they will know what to expect from Slovenia and Lithuania) but Roy has got them set up to do what it takes to win. We will not have what it takes to win the group, so ultimately we are going to rely on a lot of England results going our way (our failure to get anything from Germany over two game was one of a number of things that came back to haunt us) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ByronLoon1986 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 (our failure to get anything from Germany over two game was one of a number of things that came back to haunt us) Disagree our failure to beat Georgia (a team who was already out) in an empty stadium was what fcuked us up!! I think like Ireland we would've took care of Bosnia in the playoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironbrew Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Think we`ll finish 4th but even if we scraped 2nd we`d then have to beat the likes of Spain/Italy in playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boynze Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Disagree our failure to beat Georgia (a team who was already out) in an empty stadium was what fcuked us up!! I think like Ireland we would've took care of Bosnia in the playoff I think you are missing they point s bit, we lack the mental fortitude to pull off the results that Ireland did, we are a weak side and don't have the ability to win big. History shows that and that is why we are doomed to failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastiebeastie Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 If we do it would be the poorest runner up and eliminated. More likely 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robroysboy Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I think you are missing they point s bit, we lack the mental fortitude to pull off the results that Ireland did, we are a weak side and don't have the ability to win big. History shows that and that is why we are doomed to failure. We wouldn't have got Bosnia, as Ireland were seeded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Tide_Rising Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 We wouldn't have got Bosnia, as Ireland were seeded. Nope - we were not seeded - Bosnia were the seeded side .....along with hungary, ukraine and sweden As for ye're next campaign - think ye have a decent chance of making the playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rory Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Nope - we were not seeded - Bosnia were the seeded side .....along with hungary, ukraine and sweden As for ye're next campaign - think ye have a decent chance of making the playoffs Am I correct in saying GTR, Bosnia were highest ranked team in the playoffs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Green_Tide_Rising, on 08 Dec 2015 - 11:52 PM, said: As for ye're next campaign - think ye have a decent chance of making the playoffs Have you forgotten how shite we were in Dublin? We've got worse since that game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khana Lagur Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 If Strachan doesn't realise that we need a bolder approach to away games then we'll struggle to finish 2nd place. He has to realise that one away win is worth more points than two away draws and not play the opponent, not the occasion. He shit it after seeing we were lucky to get away with a point in Warsaw after having a go at them and changed his approach in Dublin and Tbilisi. He played tor two points in these games and got one out of six when he should have been aiming for six. Shit ting yourself isn't a strategy for success. If he changes our away game strategy then I do think we can get to the play-off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcountry jock Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Don't know if the early Xmas drinks are clouding my judgement but I think we have got a chance albeit a very slim chance of making play-offs, England will win the group no doubt about that but if we can play like we did against Germany ( with tighter defence) I think we can take a point from them at hampden. We must win every other home game and take a minimum of 7/8 points from our away games or rely on other results. But I've got a horrible feeling already that Malta will be like Georgia last campaign and be out un-doing. But to answer the original question why would anyone follow the national team spending £1000's if you think we have no hope !!!!! As I said maybe the Xmas spirit kicking in early but got to have some hope to get through the next 9 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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