DonnyTJS Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Just to play devil's advocate for a minute: the use of the term 'troops' to refer to fellow football supporters in a self-styled army is a bit wanky ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverbear Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 'Rock up' as in 'What time shall I rock up' or 'They're hardly going to rock up now' Just say "arrive" - it's a perfectly good word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindimoo Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Just to play devil's advocate for a minute: the use of the term 'troops' to refer to fellow football supporters in a self-styled army is a bit wanky ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Just to play devil's advocate for a minute: the use of the term 'troops' to refer to fellow football supporters in a self-styled army is a bit wanky ... I agree, but I'm very doubtful that there is any devil's advocacy involved here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 "Now I am just playing devil's advocate....." used to distance yourself from something you actually believe but don't want to admit to! A misunderstood expression. It does not mean someone who defends the devil (in the sense of an unpopular person or cause), but someone who points out the faults in a respected person or a good cause, not necessarily because he believes the faults outweigh the goodness, but perhaps because he wishes to be impartial or to ensure balanced discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Just to play devil's advocate for a minute: the use of the term 'troops' to refer to fellow football supporters in a self-styled army is a bit wanky ... Yip, 'on manoeuvres' is right up there with the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Just to play devil's advocate for a minute: the use of the term 'troops' to refer to fellow football supporters in a self-styled army is a bit wanky ... A misunderstood expression. It does not mean someone who defends the devil (in the sense of an unpopular person or cause), but someone who points out the faults in a respected person or a good cause, not necessarily because he believes the faults outweigh the goodness, but perhaps because he wishes to be impartial or to ensure balanced discussion. I don't have a problem with the expression the issue is when you actually believe what you are saying but just don't have the balls to come out and just admit that is what you actually think is when I have an issue with it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 I don't have a problem with the expression the issue is when you actually believe what you are saying but just don't have the balls to come out and just admit that is what you actually think is when I have an issue with it, FTR I wasn't suggesting it was misunderstood by anyone on here - just generally! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 FTR I wasn't suggesting it was misunderstood by anyone on here - just generally! I know - I was just clarifying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 I know - I was just clarifying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 'Rock up' as in 'What time shall I rock up' or 'They're hardly going to rock up now' Just say "arrive" - it's a perfectly good word So to clear, we should all just speak in English and any form of slang or alternative phraseology should be outlawed? Alright Adolf! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 So to clear, we should all just speak in English and any form of slang or alternative phraseology should be outlawed? Alright Adolf! :-) Yeah but to be fair "rock up" is a tad wanky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larky Masher Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Rangers in crisis is a bit passé now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Yeah but to be fair "rock up" is a tad wanky I was more referring to his "just say arrive" comment, rather than that "rock up" wasn't wanky. Let's take his example. I may have been known in the past to say something like "what time did you trap?" Now, I neither think the use of the word trap was cool nor wanky. It was simply slang/alternative way to say arrive, but by Silverbear's logic arrive is the only acceptable verb in this scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Couple of new ones watching BBCQT tonight. Sinn Fein MP consistently referring to Northern Ireland as "the North of Ireland" and the Republic of Ireland as "the South of Ireland. It's that pathetic notion that if I say this often enough it'll be true. Like a child stamping its feet. Well I'm sorry Declan (he really is called Declan btw before anyone starts), I'm sorry, but for the time being you're going to have to accept that "this island" is two countries. I say the above without the slightest interest in Northerm Irish politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irnbruman Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 "What time did you trap"? Id understand that as the last time you had a shyte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairbairn Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Just to play devil's advocate for a minute: the use of the term 'troops' to refer to fellow football supporters in a self-styled army is a bit wanky ... Almost as bad as 'foot soldier'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Almost as bad as 'foot soldier'. or footy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart_Aberdeen Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 or footy Or Todders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenAngus Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Couple of new ones watching BBCQT tonight. Sinn Fein MP consistently referring to Northern Ireland as "the North of Ireland" and the Republic of Ireland as "the South of Ireland. It's that pathetic notion that if I say this often enough it'll be true. Like a child stamping its feet. Well I'm sorry Declan (he really is called Declan btw before anyone starts), I'm sorry, but for the time being you're going to have to accept that "this island" is two countries. I say the above without the slightest interest in Northerm Irish politics. This repeating of phrases or opinions which hold no basis in fact is what most politicians do most of the time. The media seem loathe to take them to task about it too. Anyway I'll throw in "a small minority" when referring to a large majority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncan II Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Couple of new ones watching BBCQT tonight. Sinn Fein MP consistently referring to Northern Ireland as "the North of Ireland" and the Republic of Ireland as "the South of Ireland. It's that pathetic notion that if I say this often enough it'll be true. Like a child stamping its feet. Well I'm sorry Declan (he really is called Declan btw before anyone starts), I'm sorry, but for the time being you're going to have to accept that "this island" is two countries. I say the above without the slightest interest in Northerm Irish politics. ..or knowledge. What's wrong with what he said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Or Todders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 or footyOooft - that's a painful one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 'Rock up' as in 'What time shall I rock up' or 'They're hardly going to rock up now' Just say "arrive" - it's a perfectly good word I picked that one up when I lived in Canada, dont think I use it here much bit when im talking to from there it still appears. Sorrt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I was more referring to his "just say arrive" comment, rather than that "rock up" wasn't wanky. Let's take his example. I may have been known in the past to say something like "what time did you trap?" Now, I neither think the use of the word trap was cool nor wanky. It was simply slang/alternative way to say arrive, but by Silverbear's logic arrive is the only acceptable verb in this scenario. People in my work speak about "dropping" As in "dave didnt drop today" meaning dave didnt turn up for his shift. stupid saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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