Orraloon Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Never mind maps. Whit aboot this for sheer baisedness. http://wingsoverscotland.com/a-matter-of-scale/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 See on that "3) UK correct proportions" picture? Should the wummin's tits no be a bit bigger? Oh they are.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Classic ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzzzz Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share Posted April 13, 2015 Oh they are.. She's horrible. Ruins my day every time I see her purely because of her stupid voice and the way she says "Scotlund". Drives me daft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddardStark Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) I've never understood why they do this. It ends up with Jersey being the same size on the TV screen as half of Scotland. this applies to a lot of maps of the world. Especially the older ones where colonized countries and continents where mapped smaller that the colonizing countries or continents. In modern times this is based on economic power rather than imperialist power. http://www.exposingtruth.com/misled-erroneous-map-world-500-years/ Edited April 13, 2015 by EddardStark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Bob Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I remember when the BBC weather map came out. They said they'd bought the software from New Zealand and it automatically did this, they couldn't help it. But after complaints they altered the viewpoint slightly. Believe it or not the distortion used to be even worse. However the new weather map was so pish I had to start getting hillwalking weather forecasts from the internet rather than the news, which was the beginning of the end of me using the BBC TV news as a serious resource. I still use the BBC website, but haven't watched BBC TV news for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 this applies to a lot of maps of the world. Especially the older ones where colonized countries and continents where mapped smaller that the colonizing countries or continents. In modern times this is based on economic power rather than imperialist power. http://www.exposingtruth.com/misled-erroneous-map-world-500-years/ In that case surely Scotland should be bigger than England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al1978 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 There are nine times as many people in England. England's map should be nine times bigger. Scotland's map should just be a wee dot, and you shouldn't be able to see Wales on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phart Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I pretty much stopped reading all MSM in about 2005 when the full extent of the all the nonsense i had been told started to come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave78 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Agreed. How's Southern Ireland? Dunno Kev, i live in the middle bit As for the maps, the BBC like to shrink Scotland whenever there's a contentious vote about to happen: http://www2.tv-ark.org.uk/weather/bbc.html 1977: 1979, year of the devolution referendum: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) this applies to a lot of maps of the world. Especially the older ones where colonized countries and continents where mapped smaller that the colonizing countries or continents. In modern times this is based on economic power rather than imperialist power. http://www.exposingtruth.com/misled-erroneous-map-world-500-years/ What a load of old toss. Land masses nearer the poles were stretched in the Mercator projection to provide a continuous 2D image. The result being that the well known imperialist powerhouse Greenland appears absolutely massive on most old maps. The fact that most imperial states were from the temperate zones, and therefore closer to the poles than many colonized areas, is an accident of geography, not an evil cartographic conspiracy (though their temperate latitude was probably a significant factor in their relative development - better climate for agriculture, disease less prevalent etc). This also, of course, means that Scotland appears disproportionately larger than more southerly parts of Britain in Mercator projections. Was the old BBC weather map based on a Mercator projection? Edited April 13, 2015 by DonnyTJS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) http://www.exposingtruth.com/misled-erroneous-map-world-500-years/ I've just had a look at how Britain appears in the 'equal-area' Gall-Peters projection as recommended by that link. Source Hmmm Edited April 13, 2015 by DonnyTJS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 "Scotland has 10,246 miles of coastline. England’s coastline is 1,988 miles." WoW! I did not know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 "Scotland has 10,246 miles of coastline. England’s coastline is 1,988 miles." WoW! I did not know that. Loads of islands - here's a breakdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 5,581 (mainland England) according to this - http://www.cartography.org.uk/default.asp?contentID=749 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flure Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Loads of islands - here's a breakdown That's 7360 miles V 3412 miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) 5,581 (mainland England) according to this - http://www.cartography.org.uk/default.asp?contentID=749 That's 7360 miles V 3412 miles. I think I remember reading (in a book about fractals) that coastlines are notoriously difficult to measure - at what scale does one begin so that you're not measuring round every pebble? That bellacaledonia figure does seem daft though. Edit: Just looked at Charlie's link where it's explained well - the bellacaledonia numbers don't make sense at all. Edited April 13, 2015 by DonnyTJS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flumax Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_length_of_coastline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I think I remember reading (in a book about fractals) that coastlines are notoriously difficult to measure - at what scale does one begin so that you're not measuring round every pebble? That bellacaladonia figure does seem daft though. Aye, "it depends" is a quote from one cartographer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I think I remember reading (in a book about fractals) that coastlines are notoriously difficult to measure - at what scale does one begin so that you're not measuring round every pebble? That bellacaledonia figure does seem daft though. Edit: Just looked at Charlie's link where it's explained well - the bellacaledonia numbers don't make sense at all. Interestingly (or maybe not..) I was charged with writing some software 30 years back to represent the coastline of Scotland on a graphics display (Chromatics as it happens) using as few data points as possible. This was a time when memory was weighed in KB not MB or even GB so size was everything (ooh err..). 6 or 7 data points were enough then just "jaggify" the lines between. point being the length of coast could range between say 10 units to infinity, just make it jaggier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 "Scotland has 10,246 miles of coastline. England’s coastline is 1,988 miles." WoW! I did not know that. A coastline, of any country, could be infinite depending on how you measure it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 A coastline, of any country, could be infinite depending on how you measure it. Switzerland ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euan2020 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Switzerland ? They get to vote in the EU on fishing guess who does not .............................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 They get to vote in the EU on fishing guess who does not .............................................. Aye, excellent point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Switzerland aren't in the EU, why do they get a vote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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