Cove_Sheep Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Canada's prime minister latest to speak out in favour of a No vote. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 I assume he is asking Westminster to take Canada back as a colony? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolhibby Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Vested interest to keep Quebec in line. Basically any country that has it's own Independence movement will be against independence. Also IMO, most world leaders need an entrenched political, power, money industrial complex to be as stable as possible for parties to rotate between power without actually changing anything. Anything that may Rick the boat is a threat to the system and so is stamped upon. J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock strap Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 What's Canada got to do with oor country ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilser Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) Harper came out with some right old crap (see below) about how Canadians couldn't imagine separating out 'their' English and Scots. I think someone need to explain to him that we're not proposing some sort of ethnic cleansing exercise, that around 10% of Scotland's residents are English and are already integrated into the country and that this exercise is about the people who live in Scotland governing themselves rather than setting up some sort of apartheid state. Reading what he's said again it's as if he gave the interview about 30 seconds after waking up - it's utter gibberish. Canada’s media is reporting that the Canadian prime minister, Stephen Harper, has been speaking out against Scottish independence. Harper, a prime minister of a country where the province of Quebec has twice voted in a referendum on independence but rejected it in each case (albeit extremely narrowly on the last occasions, is currently in the UK to attend the Nato summit in Wales. The Toronto Star reports him as saying: We think, from a Canadian perspective, that a strong and united United Kingdom is an overwhelmingly positive force in the world. There’s nothing in dividing those countries that would serve either greater global interests or frankly the interests of ordinary people in these countries.” Harper added that separatism debates are “not normal politics” but said that much of the ongoing debate over Scotland’s separation is lost on Canadians who see the Scots and English so “completely integrated” in Canada. The idea of separating English people from Scottish people in Canada is almost inconceivable. So we have trouble relating to it on that level. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/scottish-independence-blog/live/2014/sep/04/scottish-independence-15-days-to-referendum-live Edited September 4, 2014 by neilser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maq Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Yeah that's utter guff, why on earth would they have to 'separate' the English and Scottish people in Canada?! Bizarre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydoo Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 He's talking bollocks. Regardless of how the referendum turns out the uk will never again be united. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock strap Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Utter garbage. He should just shut up and concentrate on his own affairs and stay right oot the bloody way of ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty CTA Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Canada's prime minister latest to speak out in favour of a No vote. Thoughts? He's a devil-worshipping satanist AND a Tory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Does this lad smoke crack with hookers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Michael Ignatieff, the ex Canadian Liberal Party leader and self proclaimed "expert on nationalism" came out against us getting independence a while back. He's opposed to Scotland, Catalonia and Quebec gaining independence because it upsets "the system"............If your interested: (he has a strange hard on for the word; secessionist) http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/8070d718-efe5-11e3-9b4c-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3CLmnpKJU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilser Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Looking back at what he's said it's incedibly patronising too - a bit like saying we in Canada don't know the difference between Czechs and Slovaks, therefore there was no need for Czechoslovakia to break up. No-one here gives a feck about your lack of empathy or understanding Mr Harper... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 He's a devil-worshipping satanist AND a Tory. So he's not all bad then. Do you get other types of satanists by the way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgowmancity Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Regardless of how the referendum turns out the uk will never again be united. Unfortunately, and more importantly, I fear neither will Scotland be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redz Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Unfortunately, and more importantly, I fear neither will Scotland be. Only because you know if its not this time there will be another and another until we are independent. I'd get used to that if I were you.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Unfortunately, and more importantly, I fear neither will Scotland be. Sounds scary, better vote no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde1998 Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 From Canadians: "Incredibly bad optics. Remember when Charles DeGaulle stuck his nose into Canadian politics and declared "Vive le Quebec libre"? Canadians, rightly, were outraged that a leader of a foreign nation would meddle in internal politics to that degree. Harper has just made the same faux pas. Team Stupid." "Harper, do Canadians all a favour. Keep your nose out of other countries issues. You have done enough damage already with your voicing of your uninformed opinions." "The last time someone interfered in our politics, Charles DeGaulle, Lester Pearson sent him home packing three days early. How embarrassing. Harper should mind his own business and leave domestic issues in the UK to it's citizens." "More pontificating from the CON Pontiff, nothing good can come of offering any comments on this issue. We would not welcome any foreign leader's comments on Quebec independence and Harper should be smart enough to not wade into this topic. He is in over his head on the world stage." "People of Scotland, please don't be mad at Canada because of Stephen Harper poking his long nose into your business. Go ahead and be mad at him. Most Canadians don't like him either." They love him for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wine bibber Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Harper came out with some right old crap (see below) about how Canadians couldn't imagine separating out 'their' English and Scots. I think someone need to explain to him that we're not proposing some sort of ethnic cleansing exercise, that around 10% of Scotland's residents are English and are already integrated into the country and that this exercise is about the people who live in Scotland governing themselves rather than setting up some sort of apartheid state. Reading what he's said again it's as if he gave the interview about 30 seconds after waking up - it's utter gibberish. Does he think that most Europeans can be bothered separating the Canadians form the Americans.Sadly NON...same as the non event that is his uneducated opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 Harper is a knob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auchinyell Sox Change Posted September 4, 2014 Share Posted September 4, 2014 unfortunately a lot of folk over here in Canada think of england as the island , and Scotland is a part/region of it the whole UK of GB & NI thing totally confuses them - the americans being generally even more ignorant in this respect (maybe i only meet the stay at homes...) usually when you say where you're from they expect two words ; Portland , Oregon etc Skawtland leaves thems bemused in many cases even in Canada , you have to be clear about London, England as opposed to London, Ontario even when it's clear which one you're referring to Harper is my local MP i believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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