ParisInAKilt Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Boring argument about his right to play for Scotland. He is a Scotland player so a pointless discussion. On his merits as a player I would go with him and Robertson for the Ireland game. Agreed. Whitaker played well in Poland but these two are part of our strongest 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgow jock Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Bardsley for me - good defender (better than Hutton defensively IMO) & hard as nails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Blackheart Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Speaking to a mate who was at the Boro v Norwich match last night. He said neither Whittaker nor Martin covered themselves in glory, but nobody in the Norwich team did - they looked like a team struggling to come to terms with the fact they'd been relegated and not really sure what they were doing. Also, the Boro player dived for the penalty Martin gave away. The ball was going nowhere so Martin didn't even need to look like he was going to put in a tackle - playing against McGeady, he needs to watch out with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parklife Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 was his dad not born in Glasgow while his grandparents were on holiday in Scotland? sure i read that somewhere Yes. That's correct. Boring argument about his right to play for Scotland. He is a Scotland player so a pointless discussion. On his merits as a player I would go with him and Robertson for the Ireland game. If it's boring then don't get involved in it. Discuss what you want to discuss and let other folk discuss what they want. Simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) I might be wrong but I think if you have a baby while on holiday in the USA your kid is entitled to a US passport. That is just how the rules of nationality work, you have to have some rules and inevitably they are a bit weird and or arbitrary at times in their application to life's complexities. Seems self harming to both moan about McGeady 'turning his back on his own country' and then turn our backs on guys like Bardsley who do want to play. edit: and if Bardsley does happen to break McGeady in two you will see that there is indeed a certain crazy balance to the universe. Amen. Edited November 5, 2014 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 As his faither spent 2 minutes in Scotland, what possible connection to the country can Bardsley have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) He was born there (the father). edit: What alternative rules would you set up? How would you enforce them - tests of how scottish you really are? These rules are simple, mechanistic hence easy to apply and enforce. And they are exactly the same for all nations. Edited November 5, 2014 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I would narrow it down to if you voted No, you can phuqq off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highland billy Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Bardsley will get ripped apart by mcgeady for pace and will lucky to see the full 90 out if he plays! I dont like him at all,and the way he acted at sunderland should be enough to put any manager off picking him,another player that will see playing for scotland as a job!! Born in england supports england and played for england, And said he didnt want to play for scotland until he knew he had no chance of getting a game for england!! Thats all i need to know about him!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal smith Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) Bardsley will get ripped apart by mcgeady for pace and will lucky to see the full 90 out if he plays! based on what? his record of red cards? 2 in 11 seasons? who would you have instead then? in fact he has never even been booked for Scotland and you reckon he will be lucky to last 90 minutes Edited November 5, 2014 by hannibal smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Bardsley will get ripped apart by mcgeady for pace and will lucky to see the full 90 out if he plays! I dont like him at all,and the way he acted at sunderland should be enough to put any manager off picking him,another player that will see playing for scotland as a job!! Born in england supports england and played for england, And said he didnt want to play for scotland until he knew he had no chance of getting a game for england!! Thats all i need to know about him!! McGeady doesn't have any pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 McGeady doesn't have any pace. Quick enough to run to Ireland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasgow jock Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Quick enough to run to Ireland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Bardsley will get ripped apart by mcgeady for pace and will lucky to see the full 90 out if he plays! I dont like him at all,and the way he acted at sunderland should be enough to put any manager off picking him,another player that will see playing for scotland as a job!! Born in england supports england and played for england, And said he didnt want to play for scotland until he knew he had no chance of getting a game for england!! Thats all i need to know about him!! Can you provide a credible source for him supporting England and playing for England ? He was born in Glasgow as it happens. Has he let us down in the games he's played ? He's actually done alright. Would you rather everyone that played for Scotland had a clan surname and could trace their ancestry back to Kenneth I ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brant grebner Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/rangers/201311-phil-bardsley-called-into-scotland-squad-for-euro-2012-games/ "I am English but if another country wanted me to play for them I would be happy to listen. They should contact me.“My dad was born in Glasgow. He wasn’t up there long, but he was born there. Despite that, my dad has never said anything. He is not pushy. He just said you make the decision.“The only time it has really come up was when Sir Alex locked me in a room with Walter Smith when I was 18, which was a bit scary.“I was only young and it was a big commitment and I decided to keep my options open at the time. But I haven’t played for England so you never know." Sounds like Scotland is his first option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Bardsley gave us a option in a problem position for us, and did really well for us. Roberston has now came through the ranks and made the position his, but Bardsley is still a good option for us to have in the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deecie Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 He was born in Salford. His Dad was born in Glasgow while his grandparents were on holiday. Even the Irish would be ashamed of capping him. Decent player like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 He was born in Salford. His Dad was born in Glasgow while his grandparents were on holiday. Sorry got confused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 He was born in Salford. His Dad was born in Glasgow while his grandparents were on holiday. Even the Irish would be ashamed of capping him. Decent player like. Well we lost Joe Baker to England due to daft eligibility laws so we were due some payback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyTJS Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 edit: What alternative rules would you set up? How would you enforce them - tests of how scottish you really are? These rules are simple, mechanistic hence easy to apply and enforce. And they are exactly the same for all nations. "Hey son, what nationality are you?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Laud Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 i think hes a decent addition to the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) "Hey son, what nationality are you?" I was asked this yesterday by a bona fide foreigner in their bona fide foreign country for the first time post referendum. As soon as they asked I had a mental intake of breath (if you know what I mean) and then I said British. There was a slim chance if I said Scottish they would ask... I could tell... so best dispel it. My nationality is not gone. But now everytime I am reminded of it it just fuels the ra(d)ge. Edited November 5, 2014 by thplinth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianp Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I'm not a PC gent, but this topic is heading towards the racist/sectarian area, let's put a stop to it NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I'm not a PC gent, but this topic is heading towards the racist/sectarian area, let's put a stop to it NOW WTF are you on about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger intae them Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 WTF are you on about? Ah, so yer fighting again... ;0) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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