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I hope Clarke realises just how well the first 11 played against the Dutch. I personally would start with the exact same 11 and just try to keep them on the pitch together a little bit longer.

The one tweak I'd make is to push Christie further back and put  McTominay or McGinn closer to Shankland.

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2 minutes ago, Tartan blood said:

I hope Clarke realises just how well the first 11 played against the Dutch. I personally would start with the exact same 11 and just try to keep them on the pitch together a little bit longer.

The one tweak I'd make is to push Christie further back and put  McTominay or McGinn closer to Shankland.

If he doesn't start Ferguson today then he's never gonna.

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The side I'd start with would be:-

                                                                              Gunn

                                                     Porteous        Hendry           Tierney

                        Patterson                                                                                 Robertson

 

                                                      Gilmour      McTominay    McGinn

                                                                         Ferguson   

 

                                                                        Shankland

 

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52 minutes ago, Tartan blood said:

I hope Clarke realises just how well the first 11 played against the Dutch. I personally would start with the exact same 11 and just try to keep them on the pitch together a little bit longer.

The one tweak I'd make is to push Christie further back and put  McTominay or McGinn closer to Shankland.

Spot on !

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14 minutes ago, Scotty2Hotty said:

He's been playing out his skin in Serie A since then and with Mcgregor out the picture, it would of been a great chance to see him start alongside Gilmour and Christie so disapointing that Clarke didn't try this out. If it's the same again then i'll be really annoyed as we can't be leaving out such good players and not trying them out enough before the euros

I have no issue Ferguson starting tonight but lets not raise expectations of him on the strength of where he plays. Jury is still out until I see him make an impression for us which I have yet to see unfortunately. No doubting his rich club form though.

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Villa and Brentford are looking at Ferguson. McGinn is the captain of Villa and McTominay is possibly getting offered a new contract at Man Utd. I don't think he's good enough yet to displace them.

 

I agree on starting with Shankland as I think he did enough to keep the jersey and Dykes and Adams have both had worse misses than his one against the Netherlands. Clarke said all three strikers would get minutes so Dykes will be on the park at some point.

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2 minutes ago, BryanBlessed said:

 

I agree on starting with Shankland as I think he did enough to keep the jersey and Dykes and Adams have both had worse misses than his one against the Netherlands. Clarke said all three strikers would get minutes so Dykes will be on the park at some point.

Agreed. It is also not out of the question he may play two strikers up front tonight in Dykes and Shankland.

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Dykes will start tonight I think as he didn’t get any minutes on Friday. 
Would prefer Shankland got another chance as he did well the other night and that miss will still be on his mind. 

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I understand the desire for the same starting eleven with minimal substitutions, especially in defence, but do we really want injury-prone Kieran Tierney playing the full ninety minutes?

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19 minutes ago, McTeeko said:

Dykes will start tonight I think as he didn’t get any minutes on Friday. 
Would prefer Shankland got another chance as he did well the other night and that miss will still be on his mind. 

There are plenty of players who come along and and never get any minutes. Dykes hasn't been great for us for a while so I don't think Clarke should start him just so he can get minutes. A sub at 70 minutes maybe?

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20 minutes ago, Andy of Lochcarron said:

When fit midfield is McGregor, Mcginn, McTominay - Gilmour just behind them but was MOM Friday, Ferguson seems to be doing well in Italy but he is nowhere near the aforementioned….just leaving for Glasgow now so hoping whatever team we put out we get the win we so badly need

I echo all of those sentiments.

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28 minutes ago, Andy of Lochcarron said:

When fit midfield is McGregor, Mcginn, McTominay - Gilmour just behind them but was MOM Friday, Ferguson seems to be doing well in Italy but he is nowhere near the aforementioned….just leaving for Glasgow now so hoping whatever team we put out we get the win we so badly need

I agree, that first three are certain starters if fully fit. Then it's a case of fitting the others around them, whether some of them start or come off the bench. Ferguson, Gilmour, Christie, McLean and Armstrong will all get some playing time in Germany. Not too many folk are mentioning Armstrong in this thread, he is still a key part of this squad. I think he has more chance of starting big games than Ferguson at the moment. 

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3 minutes ago, Orraloon said:

I agree, that first three are certain starters if fully fit. Then it's a case of fitting the others around them, whether some of them start or come off the bench. Ferguson, Gilmour, Christie, McLean and Armstrong will all get some playing time in Germany. Not too many folk are mentioning Armstrong in this thread, he is still a key part of this squad. I think he has more chance of starting big games than Ferguson at the moment. 

Yes Armstrong is a very handy squad member. He can and has made useful contributions when we have needed it. He has also been in good form for Southampton this season and has a lot of experience now at international level.

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2 hours ago, Tartan blood said:

I hope Clarke realises just how well the first 11 played against the Dutch. I personally would start with the exact same 11 and just try to keep them on the pitch together a little bit longer.

The one tweak I'd make is to push Christie further back and put  McTominay or McGinn closer to Shankland.

Totally agree with the Christie deeper switch, I'll be angry if Clarke doesn't try him in the position he is excelling in! 

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Just a note on N.I, early signs O’Neil is getting a tune out of them again like his first spell. Ended their euro campaign with a statement 2-0 win v Denmark at home and looked quite strong in that game.Obvs a clean sheet away to Romania the other night. Hopefully we’re not hitting them at wrong time as for me we simply have to win and win well. 

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53 minutes ago, Andy of Lochcarron said:

When fit midfield is McGregor, Mcginn, McTominay - Gilmour just behind them but was MOM Friday, Ferguson seems to be doing well in Italy but he is nowhere near the aforementioned….just leaving for Glasgow now so hoping whatever team we put out we get the win we so badly need

Not sure I agree, I think Gilmour is a must start for me now.

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3 minutes ago, JECK said:

Just a note on N.I, early signs O’Neil is getting a tune out of them again like his first spell. Ended their euro campaign with a statement 2-0 win v Denmark at home and looked quite strong in that game.Obvs a clean sheet away to Romania the other night. Hopefully we’re not hitting them at wrong time as for me we simply have to win and win well. 

It was 1-1 in Romania.  It'll be a hard game but its a winnable one unlike most of our recent friendlies, the sort of opposition we should be taking on in friendlies.

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2 hours ago, Caledonian Craig said:

The side I'd start with would be:-

                                                                              Gunn

                                                     Porteous        Hendry           Tierney

                        Patterson                                                                                 Robertson

 

                                                      Gilmour      McTominay    McGinn

                                                                         Ferguson   

 

                                                                        Shankland

 

 I'll go with this,

                         Gunn

        Hendry    Souttar   Tierney

Patto     Gilmour    Christie     Robbo 

         McGinn          McTominay 

                       Shankland 

I know I'll get slated after Souttar's horror show in Amsterdam but he was thrown on in a position that was alien to him when the game was beginning to get stretched .  This is a friendly after all so I do hope Clarke gives him another chance, not just for the players sake but because we are really thin on the ground for decent options at the back. 

  

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5 minutes ago, theabsentee said:

 I'll go with this,

                         Gunn

        Hendry    Souttar   Tierney

Patto     Gilmour    Christie     Robbo 

         McGinn          McTominay 

                       Shankland 

I know I'll get slated after Souttar's horror show in Amsterdam but he was thrown on in a position that was alien to him when the game was beginning to get stretched .  This is a friendly after all so I do hope Clarke gives him another chance, not just for the players sake but because we are really thin on the ground for decent options at the back. 

  

I’d be happy with this. Don’t think Porteous has done much to deserve being dropped, he’s surprised me since he’s come in and is still of an age where he can improve but I don’t think Souttar should be written off. If he’s having a nightmare get Porto on.

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1 hour ago, The Black Bra said:

I’d be happy with this. Don’t think Porteous has done much to deserve being dropped, he’s surprised me since he’s come in and is still of an age where he can improve but I don’t think Souttar should be written off. If he’s having a nightmare get Porto on.

Yeh I agree on Porto, reckon he is a better man on man defender than Hendry but as Northern Irelands attack is lead by a guy that plays for Stevenage borough we shouldn't be tested too much. Hendry due to being good on the ball & can break forward to support Patto hopefully.

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2 hours ago, Andy of Lochcarron said:

When fit midfield is McGregor, Mcginn, McTominay - Gilmour just behind them but was MOM Friday, Ferguson seems to be doing well in Italy but he is nowhere near the aforementioned….just leaving for Glasgow now so hoping whatever team we put out we get the win we so badly need

I like McGregor, but if it's a straight choice between him and Billy Gilmour then Gilmour wins every single time.

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2 hours ago, theabsentee said:

Totally agree with the Christie deeper switch, I'll be angry if Clarke doesn't try him in the position he is excelling in! 

I can see why Clarke tried him up next to Shankland, as he would do all the running and allow Shankland to just focus on doing what he does best.

I'm not against that in theory, but I think the benefit doesn't outweight the negative. Which is that McTominay and/or McGinn play slightly deeper. 

I know both them missed chances as well, but I'd rather they got a few more shots on goal than Christie. Who seems to be completely transformed into a non-scoring midfielder.

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