todd Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 25 minutes ago, Toepoke said: Correct. We are the only country to have played at three Euros and not got out of our group once. (We are also the only country to have played at eight World Cups and never got further than the first round). We just love a bit of infamy don't we? 😝 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, Toepoke said: Correct. We are the only country to have played at three Euros and not got out of our group once. (We are also the only country to have played at eight World Cups and never got further than the first round). It really grinds with me that, forgetting England for a moment, Wales got out their group twice in the last 2 euros (with relative ease), Ni done at 82 and done at euro 2016 whilst Roi have managed a World Cup quarter final, got out their groups usa 94 and 2002 and also done it in 2016… We’re a fkin embarrassment in comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 12 hours ago, Caledonian Craig said: My suggestion of Ryan Fraser was as replacement for Lewis Ferguson not Hickey or Patterson. If you can find a more suitable one with international experience and goals for us and getting games and in form then lets hear it. They play totally different positions. Fraser has been mostly awful in his 26 caps, can't cross a ball can't go past someone. We don't play with wingers either so waste of a jersey. Also he's on 63k a week, fuck me football is fucked 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted April 20 Author Share Posted April 20 7 hours ago, Kirk said: They play totally different positions. Fraser has been mostly awful in his 26 caps, can't cross a ball can't go past someone. We don't play with wingers either so waste of a jersey. Also he's on 63k a week, fuck me football is fucked 😂 Still waiting for your suggested alternative for us who has scored muktiple goals and has a silver cap to his name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On 4/16/2024 at 6:03 AM, syecosse said: Cairney said a while back he would love to be involved again, it's more not being picked. Aye I’m sure he would now we’re going to the Euros. Would he be saying that at the prospect of a Nations League away game in Kazakhstan? He can absolutely do one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On 4/17/2024 at 4:58 PM, Caledonian Craig said: I don't see how he 'knackers himself' by playing at the Euros. He is back in the gym and light training with the Euros still two months away. Even if he should fail to playfor Brentford he will be continuing to build his fitness up and can test things out in our two friendlies and take it from there. If he comes through those games fine then I cannot see any danger of him 'knackering himself' at the Euros considering he would have had around two and a half months of activity behind him without mishap potentially. Given the how light our squad might be, I wouldn’t be risking any of our key players against a bunch of butchers, bakers and candlestick makers from Gibraltar, particularly those that are just returning from injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 10 hours ago, Kirk said: Fraser has been mostly awful in his 26 caps, can't cross a ball can't go past someone. I get that you don't like him but that simply isn't true. I don't know his Scotland stats, but he has multiple goals and assists to his name. Like Armstrong, he always has some form of an impact off the bench. He does go past players, but he very often draws fouls due to his trickery and stature, which can be quite valuable. (if we had a good freekick taker) In my opinion, subs should be utilised to change things up when plan A or B isn't working. We want players that will do something completely different to what's on the field. That's why I'd take Fraser, and maybe even Turnbull if he can find his form before the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breeks_mctavish Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 3 minutes ago, Tartan blood said: I get that you don't like him but that simply isn't true. I don't know his Scotland stats, but he has multiple goals and assists to his name. Like Armstrong, he always has some form of an impact off the bench. He does go past players, but he very often draws fouls due to his trickery and stature, which can be quite valuable. (if we had a good freekick taker) In my opinion, subs should be utilised to change things up when plan A or B isn't working. We want players that will do something completely different to what's on the field. That's why I'd take Fraser, and maybe even Turnbull if he can find his form before the end of the season. 4 goals and 9 assists in 26 caps. A very decent return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDFH64 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 21 minutes ago, breeks_mctavish said: 4 goals and 9 assists in 26 caps. A very decent return. That’s probably better stats than James Forrest has, take away his 2 game hot streak when I think he scored 4 goals & it definitely would be a better return. On his day & if he’s interested Fraser is worth a place in the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syecosse Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Played 1 hour ago, Marky said: Aye I’m sure he would now we’re going to the Euros. Would he be saying that at the prospect of a Nations League away game in Kazakhstan? He can absolutely do one. Played in u19s and u21s, 2 caps been in squads but as an unused sub was in Clarkes squad in the past but unused, in 2017 talks about how his dad had him in Celtic strips growing up and regularly visited Scotland and wanted to be playing for Scotland and recently was asked in Jan about Scotland and said he wanted to be called up, he admits pulling out because of injurys in the past but even looking at his career has had his fair share of injurys, cannot actually see that he has not said no to playing for us just unlucky not to be involved more especially with the midfield we have more likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Hopefully Ralston gets some game time before now and the end of the season but it’s doubtful with Celtic title chasing. Is Max Johnston playing? He’s probably the next in line. Time for a couple of caps in the next two friendlies to get him some experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 11 hours ago, Kirk said: They play totally different positions. Fraser has been mostly awful in his 26 caps, can't cross a ball can't go past someone. We don't play with wingers either so waste of a jersey. Also he's on 63k a week, fuck me football is fucked 😂 It’s time for you to chill with the Fraser stuff 😂 he will be in the squad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 hour ago, breeks_mctavish said: 4 goals and 9 assists in 26 caps. A very decent return. Considering probably half his caps are sub appearances, that is very good stats. He played a pivotal role in our nations league campaign that got us to our first Euros. And he came on and set up 2 goals to ensure a victory over Ukraine as well. That's just off the top of my head. If squads do end up being 26, it would be mad not to take him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On 4/17/2024 at 6:08 PM, Gala Tartan Army (Borders) said: im not saying O’Donnell should be in squad in normal circumstances but we have no one else who has played for Scotland at right back and he does have experience in last Euros. Don’t see Clarke taking a punt on Johnson or McCrorie. Hopefully Hickey does make it and we go with him and Ralston as back up (assuming Patterson is unfortunately goosed as appeared to be on Monday night). If Patterson is out (I don't think that is certain) and Ralston and Johnstone continue to get zero minutes, it might be worth calling up Livramento (provided he's getting minutes). The argument against was that it would disrupt squad harmony, but if there are no credible replacements it should be considered. I'm hopeful we'll still have fully fit Hickey and Patterson at the Euros but it's a worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted April 20 Author Share Posted April 20 1 hour ago, er yir macaroon said: If Patterson is out (I don't think that is certain) and Ralston and Johnstone continue to get zero minutes, it might be worth calling up Livramento (provided he's getting minutes). The argument against was that it would disrupt squad harmony, but if there are no credible replacements it should be considered. I'm hopeful we'll still have fully fit Hickey and Patterson at the Euros but it's a worry. No the argument, well its not really an argument just fact that Livramento's ambition and desire is to pull on the Three Lions jersey at full level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 3 hours ago, ProudScot said: Hopefully Ralston gets some game time before now and the end of the season but it’s doubtful with Celtic title chasing. Is Max Johnston playing? He’s probably the next in line. Time for a couple of caps in the next two friendlies to get him some experience Thank fuck someone still uses the right term - game time. Had enough of this 'minutes' pish 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesiScotsman Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 5 hours ago, Marky said: Aye I’m sure he would now we’re going to the Euros. Would he be saying that at the prospect of a Nations League away game in Kazakhstan? He can absolutely do one. The same could be said about Che Adams who only committed himself to play for us once we qualified for Euro 2020. Plus he rejected call ups from us previously under McLeish and in Clarke’s early tenure. 2 hours ago, er yir macaroon said: If Patterson is out (I don't think that is certain) and Ralston and Johnstone continue to get zero minutes, it might be worth calling up Livramento (provided he's getting minutes). The argument against was that it would disrupt squad harmony, but if there are no credible replacements it should be considered. I'm hopeful we'll still have fully fit Hickey and Patterson at the Euros but it's a worry. Patterson is definitely out. He’s done his hamstring which is going to require surgery. I like Livramento as a player but he’s said on numerous occasions that he wants to represent England at senior level at some point in his career. So that’s out the window. Looking at the options unless Hickey can make a miraculous return in time (praying that he does🙏🏽🤲🏽), I think it’s probably going to be two players selected out of Ralston/Johnston/McCrorie. Ralston hardly gets a game at Celtic and I was surprised why he didn’t push for a move in January even if it was just on loan to a club that he can get himself regular game time. Johnstone doesn’t get much game time himself and only makes the odd sub appearance for Sturm Graz. McCrorie is the only one that has been playing regularly but I don’t know how he’s been doing at Bristol City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHfaeGTA Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 2 hours ago, DesiScotsman said: The same could be said about Che Adams who only committed himself to play for us once we qualified for Euro 2020. Plus he rejected call ups from us previously under McLeish and in Clarke’s early tenure. Patterson is definitely out. He’s done his hamstring which is going to require surgery. I like Livramento as a player but he’s said on numerous occasions that he wants to represent England at senior level at some point in his career. So that’s out the window. Looking at the options unless Hickey can make a miraculous return in time (praying that he does🙏🏽🤲🏽), I think it’s probably going to be two players selected out of Ralston/Johnston/McCrorie. Ralston hardly gets a game at Celtic and I was surprised why he didn’t push for a move in January even if it was just on loan to a club that he can get himself regular game time. Johnstone doesn’t get much game time himself and only makes the odd sub appearance for Sturm Graz. McCrorie is the only one that has been playing regularly but I don’t know how he’s been doing at Bristol City. Don’t know either but he’s been playing every week and as a RWB so must be doing ok. He can also provide cover as a CH and CDM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 2 hours ago, DesiScotsman said: The same could be said about Che Adams who only committed himself to play for us once we qualified for Euro 2020. Plus he rejected call ups from us previously under McLeish and in Clarke’s early tenure. Patterson is definitely out. He’s done his hamstring which is going to require surgery. I like Livramento as a player but he’s said on numerous occasions that he wants to represent England at senior level at some point in his career. So that’s out the window. Looking at the options unless Hickey can make a miraculous return in time (praying that he does🙏🏽🤲🏽), I think it’s probably going to be two players selected out of Ralston/Johnston/McCrorie. Ralston hardly gets a game at Celtic and I was surprised why he didn’t push for a move in January even if it was just on loan to a club that he can get himself regular game time. Johnstone doesn’t get much game time himself and only makes the odd sub appearance for Sturm Graz. McCrorie is the only one that has been playing regularly but I don’t know how he’s been doing at Bristol City. I wasn't aware of his England comments. I saw his mum wanted him to play for Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHfaeGTA Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Armstrong off on a stretcher apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton wanderer Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Stuart Armstrong off on a stretcher and looks a bad one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHfaeGTA Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 11 minutes ago, GHfaeGTA said: Armstrong off on a stretcher apparently Rumours it’s his ACL just like Ferguson. Hopefully not but not looking good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 11 minutes ago, GHfaeGTA said: Rumours it’s his ACL just like Ferguson. Hopefully not but not looking good Right, who on this board can play? I can only be used sparingly due to the arthritis on my toe joint. Seriously bad news for Scotland and really unlucky for Armstrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich NATA Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 (edited) Think it might be a knee. Commentary team on the Southampton match (including a former player) said it looked bad for Armstrong. Edited April 20 by Rich NATA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger intae them Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Bbc say Adam armstrong left pitch on a stretcher…….. but their reporting is usually pish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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