LoganRoy Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Bump... (IN THE HOPE WE GET A GOAL) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoganRoy Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Winner please Stevie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartanTamsie Posted November 17, 2023 Share Posted November 17, 2023 On 6/11/2022 at 5:30 PM, kumnio said: Enough of this clown, get him the fuck away. I'm also a bawbag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted November 18, 2023 Author Share Posted November 18, 2023 Wow, that’s comedy genius, what a man you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 7 hours ago, TartanTamsie said: Poor patter mate. Very poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 As soon as i saw the line up like many others this was my first thought He is going to repeat the same billy big noise mistakes of previous Scotland managers by "thinking outside the box" that leads to disaster Only consolation is it's not the opening game of a finals or a meaningful game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: As soon as i saw the line up like many others this was my first thought He is going to repeat the same billy big noise mistakes of previous Scotland managers by "thinking outside the box" that leads to disaster Only consolation is it's not the opening game of a finals or a meaningful game Edit - sack arguing with someone so clueless Edited November 19, 2023 by vanderark14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 11 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: Edit - sack arguing with someone so clueless 😄 nearly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jailender Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Cue posts on the Steve Clark get to fuck thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scot1 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 (edited) I think he needs to start culling some of the members in the squad who are clearly not good enough or are past it, Taylor, McLean, Jack, Brown for starters. I also think he needs to start adjusting his team selections when we are playing big, physical, athletic teams like Norway and stop putting out teams that will struggle to match their physicality, when we have players who are taller, stronger, more athletic on the bench. Edited November 19, 2023 by Scot1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Scot Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 I think Clark is the best ever Scotland manager however he does make some decisions that appear strange from the outside. We have had 2 competitive but ultimately meaningless games and he has started Christie then Armstrong. He know what both of these guys can do. They will both be going to Germany. Why not start Ferguson in one of the games? I wantes Shankland to start tonight but can see the merit in starting Brown however with 25 to go why bring on Dykes instead of Shankland. Like above Dkyes and Adams are on the plane. We now are abit clearer whether Brown can play the role but still no idea about Shankland. He takes the captain of U21 away from 2 tough away games (Doig) and then doesnt get any minutes. We know Taylors ceiling. We dont know Doigs so wheres the harm in giving him 30 mins in either game. Personally id rather we lost tonight with Ferguson, Shankland, Brown, Doig and maybe even Doak getting significant gametime than won by playing the guys who we know what they can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, Diamond Scot said: I think Clark is the best ever Scotland manager however he does make some decisions that appear strange from the outside. We have had 2 competitive but ultimately meaningless games and he has started Christie then Armstrong. He know what both of these guys can do. They will both be going to Germany. Why not start Ferguson in one of the games? I wantes Shankland to start tonight but can see the merit in starting Brown however with 25 to go why bring on Dykes instead of Shankland. Like above Dkyes and Adams are on the plane. We now are abit clearer whether Brown can play the role but still no idea about Shankland. He takes the captain of U21 away from 2 tough away games (Doig) and then doesnt get any minutes. We know Taylors ceiling. We dont know Doigs so wheres the harm in giving him 30 mins in either game. Personally id rather we lost tonight with Ferguson, Shankland, Brown, Doig and maybe even Doak getting significant gametime than won by playing the guys who we know what they can do. I agree with pretty much all of that. I think shankland especially deserved a bit more gametime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 31 minutes ago, Diamond Scot said: I think Clark is the best ever Scotland manager however he does make some decisions that appear strange from the outside. We have had 2 competitive but ultimately meaningless games and he has started Christie then Armstrong. He know what both of these guys can do. They will both be going to Germany. Why not start Ferguson in one of the games? I wantes Shankland to start tonight but can see the merit in starting Brown however with 25 to go why bring on Dykes instead of Shankland. Like above Dkyes and Adams are on the plane. We now are abit clearer whether Brown can play the role but still no idea about Shankland. He takes the captain of U21 away from 2 tough away games (Doig) and then doesnt get any minutes. We know Taylors ceiling. We dont know Doigs so wheres the harm in giving him 30 mins in either game. Personally id rather we lost tonight with Ferguson, Shankland, Brown, Doig and maybe even Doak getting significant gametime than won by playing the guys who we know what they can do. I also agree with a lot of that apart from the bit about the games being meaningless competitive ones. We could have squeaked into pot 2 tonight which would have been well worth the effort. On Shankland, he’s definitely going to get the chance in pre Euro friendlies and so will Ferguson and deservedly so. Doig is so far down the pecking order it’s barely worth talking about. On Doak, I know how desperate Celtic were to keep him but how big a step is it from Liverpool youth team to the Euros? He’s literally made one appearance this season, talk of him even being in the squad unless that changes is ridiculous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Scot Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, slasher said: I also agree with a lot of that apart from the bit about the games being meaningless competitive ones. We could have squeaked into pot 2 tonight which would have been well worth the effort. On Shankland, he’s definitely going to get the chance in pre Euro friendlies and so will Ferguson and deservedly so. Doig is so far down the pecking order it’s barely worth talking about. On Doak, I know how desperate Celtic were to keep him but how big a step is it from Liverpool youth team to the Euros? He’s literally made one appearance this season, talk of him even being in the squad unless that changes is ridiculous! As meaningless as competitive games go for us. Pot 3 is actually better than pot 2 anyway. Agree regarding Doig but its still a strange / frustrating decision. Doak was used purely as an example. I dont think he has done enough for a call up nor do I think he will be in the Euros squad but I do 100% think he will be a Scotland player so why not give him some game time tonight rather than McLean or even Christie / Armstrong. Not every game is a must win. Sometimes you can learn more by holding your go to guys back and seeing what others can or cant do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotlad Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 29 minutes ago, slasher said: I also agree with a lot of that apart from the bit about the games being meaningless competitive ones. We could have squeaked into pot 2 tonight which would have been well worth the effort. On Shankland, he’s definitely going to get the chance in pre Euro friendlies and so will Ferguson and deservedly so. Doig is so far down the pecking order it’s barely worth talking about. On Doak, I know how desperate Celtic were to keep him but how big a step is it from Liverpool youth team to the Euros? He’s literally made one appearance this season, talk of him even being in the squad unless that changes is ridiculous! I don't think Doak is ready yet either but tbf to him, he's started all but one of Liverpool's Europa League games so far. Although he hasn't looked out place he hasn't set the heather alight either though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Fucking shameful to lose a goal against that mob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 10 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: Fucking shameful to lose a goal against that mob Why would you resurrect this thread? Just post on the match thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty2Hotty Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Clarke has done a good job for us no question. However, is this partly due to having some of the best players we've had since the late 90's? I like him as a guy and is a great fit for Scotland but some of his decisions really are baffling and he is far too safe/loyal to players for my liking, wishing he was more ruthless because I just can't see us progressing any further than where we are at the minute as he is no willing to try anything different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 28 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: Why would you resurrect this thread? Just post on the match thread. Two reasons 1 - Reverse Jinx 2 - Getting it ready for full time - because make no bones about it, defeat raises serious questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 "defeat raises serious questions " - it sure does. I've been vocal supporter of Clarke but not I am messaging close pals saying might he be out the door? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 4 minutes ago, romanticscot said: "defeat raises serious questions " - it sure does. I've been vocal supporter of Clarke but not I am messaging close pals saying might he be out the door? No, he won't. Cmon now. Im obviously not his biggest fan, but he will be here for the Euros, there isn't any question over that IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 (edited) 17 minutes ago, kumnio said: No, he won't. Cmon now. Im obviously not his biggest fan, but he will be here for the Euros, there isn't any question over that IMO. In fairness not many countries would hang onto a manager after the string of results like that We will - failure is acceptable Edited March 26 by Ally Bongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 5 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: In fairness not many countries would hang onto a manager after the string of results like that We will - failure is acceptable Failure? Are you honestly this fucking stupid. We qualified with games to spare, the rest of the games have been dead rubbers and friendlies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 4 minutes ago, Ally Bongo said: In fairness not many countries would hang onto a manager after the string of results like that We will - failure is acceptable He should have been sacked after Dublin, Id guess thats when I started this thread. He won't be sacked now, even after a run of 7 games without a win, during which we have played Spain, England, France & Netherlands. Personally think that the Georgia away and Norway at home games were pretty dismal, and obviously tonight was worse than that. When Clarke gets it right, Spain at home, Denmark at home for example, we can be very good. But we are incredibly poor at times under him, and he looks clueless in regards of how to change things. IMO, he is holding us back, and we would get more from this squad with another manager. I know that some will disagree, especially the Steve Clarke loyal, but its my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86glebestreet Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Hopefully he will realise although this squad was good enough to get to the euros it’s not going to be good enough for the finals, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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