todd Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 2 hours ago, romanticscot said: Ferguson starts for Bologna v Monza Think he scored but it was disallowed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Scot Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Tartan blood said: The "okay" performances you refer to are very much nuanced. Context is everything. They might be "okay" for a 27 year old. For a 17 year old, they are exceptional. He is miles and miles ahead of everyone even close to his age. I do agree that he shouldn't be handed significant game time against Spain or France. He also shouldn't take the place of any of the guys that would have been in the squad anyway. But this isn't the Euros. We don't have a limit. Bring 1 extra player than we otherwise would have. What's the harm? You're saying get him in in 6 months. I assume that means you think he should be in the Euros squad. If that's the case, why not at the very least introduce him to his fellow Euros squad members now? He'd also incidentally be the only 17 year old to ever be capped for Scotland. That would be quite the confidence booster for him. There isnt a limit to the squad size but there is a limit to the matchday squad. Thats why Shankland was in the squad but not on the bench for Cyprus. So for Doak to be on the bench against Spain he would be taking the place of an existing member. In years gone by id be all for an exceptional youngster doing that but outlr squad is very strong atm. Effectively you would have to leave out somebody like Christie, Armstrong or Ferguson. As much as I believe Doak will go onto become miles better than all 3, we might need them against Spain and he is not currently better in terms of actual performances. As I said above, id be all for him getting involved in every training session. Personally id rather give Ferguson game time against France. He has earned it more than Doak currently. This isnt me being against Doak btw. Im super excited by him however when trying to evaluate where he is currrently at I just dont think he is there yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Diamond Scot said: There isnt a limit to the squad size but there is a limit to the matchday squad. Thats why Shankland was in the squad but not on the bench for Cyprus. So for Doak to be on the bench against Spain he would be taking the place of an existing member. In years gone by id be all for an exceptional youngster doing that but outlr squad is very strong atm. Effectively you would have to leave out somebody like Christie, Armstrong or Ferguson. As much as I believe Doak will go onto become miles better than all 3, we might need them against Spain and he is not currently better in terms of actual performances. As I said above, id be all for him getting involved in every training session. Personally id rather give Ferguson game time against France. He has earned it more than Doak currently. This isnt me being against Doak btw. Im super excited by him however when trying to evaluate where he is currrently at I just dont think he is there yet. It is a bit unfortunate that it is 2 giants of the game we are coming up against. Where we really need to be at our absolute strongest to compete. If it were up to me, I'd leave him out of the matchday squad against Spain, then give him 3mins at the end of the France game. Means he's trained with the squad all week and gets a cap to mark the end of an amazing month for him. All before he is 18. The next round of games against Georgia and Norway might make more sense to give him significant game time. Especially if we have already qualified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 4 hours ago, Tartan blood said: It is a bit unfortunate that it is 2 giants of the game we are coming up against. Where we really need to be at our absolute strongest to compete. If it were up to me, I'd leave him out of the matchday squad against Spain, then give him 3mins at the end of the France game. Means he's trained with the squad all week and gets a cap to mark the end of an amazing month for him. All before he is 18. The next round of games against Georgia and Norway might make more sense to give him significant game time. Especially if we have already qualified. In theory a good idea but even if we have qualified by the time we come to play Georgia and Norway they are still very important games. We need to take those games very seriously regardless as the more points we finish up with the better seeding we will have in the Euros. Any drop-off in results and we could drop from potentially Pot 1 or 2 to most probably Pot 3 or very slight chance (unlikely though) of Pot 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killiefaetheferry Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Gilmour starts for Brighton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 2 hours ago, killiefaetheferry said: Gilmour starts for Brighton. 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger intae them Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 2 hours ago, killiefaetheferry said: Gilmour starts for Brighton. and stays on for the whole game …… good or bad 😱 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ramy 1314 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Patterson on the bench again and Everton getting beat by Luton. Looks good on them. I just don't get it.. Patterson needs to move, why is he on the bench????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, Big Ramy 1314 said: Patterson on the bench again and Everton getting beat by Luton. Looks good on them. I just don't get it.. Patterson needs to move, why is he on the bench????? We got good money for him, probably too good to turn down but I wish he'd stayed at Ibrox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger intae them Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Much like gilmour he should stick it out. If they are good enough it should come to them. Patterson had a few injuries…… and the team has been pish, so not a great base to start from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 hour ago, ger intae them said: and stays on for the whole game …… good or bad 😱 Hopefully it means he was the best of a bad bunch, at least 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scot1 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Tierney just pulled up during a sprint. Subbed off, looks like a hamstring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theabsentee Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Scot1 said: Tierney just pulled up during a sprint. Subbed off, looks like a hamstring. Very sad for him & us 😪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 23 minutes ago, theabsentee said: Very sad for him & us 😪 Aargh. We all wanted him out of Arsenal because he wasn't playing but I guess not playing meant there was less chance of him getting injured! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Bra Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 If Tierney is out, Clarke could surprise us and go with a back four, giving us an extra man in midfield. Doubt if he will though. Reckon it will be McKenna, Hendry and Porteous as a back three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Bra Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) We’ll lose the attacking threat Tierney gives us alongside Robertson on the left. Probably won’t be attacking that much against Spain anyway… Edited September 30, 2023 by The Black Bra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 56 minutes ago, Hertsscot said: Aargh. We all wanted him out of Arsenal because he wasn't playing but I guess not playing meant there was less chance of him getting injured! Jeez, clearly an immensely talented player but football is just not conducive to that that boys physical makeup 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 6 hours ago, Scot1 said: Tierney just pulled up during a sprint. Subbed off, looks like a hamstring. That is a bloody sore one to take given he caused them so much trouble at Hampden. A real blow. No doubt it will also totally change the way we will line-up defensively and blunts a very important and hard to control part of our attack. Hopefully, he is back for the November double header. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 I would say with Tierney looking like he is out of the reckoning then we'd need to revert to a back four as we do not have a dynamic attacking replacement on the left-side of the back three. We saw that for the World Cup play-off V Ukraine when Cooper played there and it just did not work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Craig Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Worryingly, if it is a bad hamstring tear he will also be out of the November double header. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Caledonian Craig said: I would say with Tierney looking like he is out of the reckoning then we'd need to revert to a back four as we do not have a dynamic attacking replacement on the left-side of the back three. We saw that for the World Cup play-off V Ukraine when Cooper played there and it just did not work. I'm not so sure. Playing Spain away from home, we are likely to need to defend a hell of a lot more than normal. 3 out and out CBs might not be the worst idea in the world, whilst also preserving the system the players are all used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 Goal, an assist and another MoM for Gauld this morning. Such a shame we probably won't see him close up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 14 hours ago, Scot1 said: Tierney just pulled up during a sprint. Subbed off, looks like a hamstring. Groundhog day or what! 😝 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHfaeGTA Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 1 hour ago, thesaint said: Groundhog day or what! 😝 McKenna not in Forest squad today. Is he injured too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted October 1, 2023 Share Posted October 1, 2023 2 hours ago, ceudmilefailte said: Goal, an assist and another MoM for Gauld this morning. Such a shame we probably won't see him close up. I wonder if we might see him or Doak in the next squad, in Anderson’s place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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