Malcolm Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 We looked a much better team playing a 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Did we? The second half was pretty uninspiring as well. They stopped playing more than anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runningtings Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 I thought we really struggled to find a pass from the back, not sure if that's because the midfield weren't showing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Its our attacking that the bigger problem, our crossing is poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, ParisInAKilt said: Did we? The second half was pretty uninspiring as well. They stopped playing more than anything. we were average to decent with a 4... we were horrific in the first half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Just now, Malcolm said: we were average to decent with a 4... we were horrific in the first half Part of that “improvement” might have been Israel playing worse but aye second half was at least watchable. Bit of a reality check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Need to win in Austria now.It's as simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Clarke said in an interview somewhere that he would use a back four in some matches, tonight should have been one of them. Much as I would love to see us bin it altogether it is probably the only way to avoid embarrassing ourselves at the Euro's. For Taylor when he pops up we beat them over 45 minutes tonight with a back 4 beat them 3-2 with a back four and haven't beaten them once with three at the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banna84 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 It’s got to be back 4. Robertson can’t play wing bk as he’s better at coming on to the ball from deep and O’Donnell is too defensive. Both much better in a 4. some changes needed after that performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 The back three didn't do anything wrong tonight. It was McGregor and McTominay that let the lad strike it. We can blame tactics and formations and Clarke all we like. If one of these two got in the face of Peretz, he wouldn't have scored. Whilst playing with a back three there's no reason for our midfielders to keep backing off and ball watching. We need to find a defensive midfielder who really excels at pressing. If Jack was fit, I don't think Peretz would've scored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Just now, Taylor1996 said: The back three didn't do anything wrong tonight. It was McGregor and McTominay that let the lad strike it. We can blame tactics and formations and Clarke all we like. If one of these two got in the face of Peretz, he wouldn't have scored. Whilst playing with a back three there's no reason for our midfielders to keep backing off and ball watching. We need to find a defensive midfielder who really excels at pressing. If Jack was fit, I don't think Peretz would've scored. I don't think Jack is the answer but I agree with the rest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: For Taylor when he pops up we beat them over 45 minutes tonight with a back 4 beat them 3-2 with a back four and haven't beaten them once with three at the back. Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) We are so hesitant with a back three, and concede far too much space in midfield. Teams are just lining up to ping balls into our box. When it gets there no one seems to know who to mark with the spare man. I’d be relieved to see Fraser and Forrest playing off a striker again. Go to a four, either drop Robertson or put Tierney in midfield alongside Jack. Edited March 28, 2021 by er yir macaroon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Blackheart Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 We got the goal back then thought we were fucking class and more would surely follow. What a waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, Taylor1996 said: Yep. Would be interesting to see how Israel have performed against other countries playing a back three compared to a back four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 1 minute ago, ceudmilefailte said: Would be interesting to see how Israel have performed against other countries playing a back three compared to a back four. It's less the back three than the midfield. In the past two matches, we've lost at least two out of three goals as a result of lack of high pressing and ball watching. The balance in midfield is off. We only have one anchorman. So when Jack is out, we are in trouble, even against the likes of Israel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Our problems are much deeper than just the formation unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 21 minutes ago, Taylor1996 said: It's less the back three than the midfield. In the past two matches, we've lost at least two out of three goals as a result of lack of high pressing and ball watching. The balance in midfield is off. We only have one anchorman. So when Jack is out, we are in trouble, even against the likes of Israel. I think you missed my point, it wasn't how we played against them it was other teams as a whole. As I stated earlier our record against them with a back three is shocking do teams playing a back four get better results against them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: I think you missed my point, it wasn't how we played against them it was other teams as a whole. As I stated earlier our record against them with a back three is shocking do teams playing a back four get better results against them? Nah. I got it. No idea, to be honest. I had a glance at their results, they usually play against teams that play with a four. So it's hard to gauge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Taylor1996 said: Nah. I got it. No idea, to be honest. I had a glance at their results, they usually play against teams that play with a four. So it's hard to gauge. Probably why the only two games they have won in months have been against us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Probably why the only two games they have won in months have been against us. Yeah. I'd say so. Just checked. They played Latvia in 2019, who played with a three, and Israel won 3-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 We shouldn't be limited to one system if we hope to get better but.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hercules Rockefeller Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 We're playing three centre backs as it's our weakest position and allows us to accommodate Tierney and Robertson in the same team. We improved when we changed to two centre backs tonight but better teams would exploit our weakness in that area with the two. The real issue is the lack of pressing (particularly in the first half of the Austria and Israel games) and lack of overlapping runners when the ball arrives to Adams/Dykes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Clarke playing 361 is the issue, the midfield is so defensive and just let’s teams attack us. You could almost accept being boring if it provided results, but it’s dreadful to watch, and we are out of the qualifying before the first set of fixtures are even completed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 The first 10 seconds their defender had it and Adams just sat back and let him control, turn and pass it. That’s came from the manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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