vanderark14 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 1 hour ago, adamntg said: You’re not taking Che Adams!? Or Stuart Armstrong Save yourself some time and don't entertain him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 8 hours ago, vanderark14 said: Or Stuart Armstrong Save yourself some time and don't entertain him. Ah, right. I wondered how he managing to cram in so many wild cards and left field picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted April 26, 2021 Author Share Posted April 26, 2021 4 hours ago, adamntg said: Ah, right. I wondered how he managing to cram in so many wild cards and left field picks. Which ones are the wild cards? Gilmour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 Your personal vendetta v Stuart Armstrong is now undermining the many credible suggestions you do have. The guy is a first team regular in a top league but because he once made a mistake he is to be damned forever. And I don't get this notion of Fraser at right wing back - has he ever played there? And he prefers playing on the left anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: Your personal vendetta v Stuart Armstrong is now undermining the many credible suggestions you do have. The guy is a first team regular in a top league but because he once made a mistake he is to be damned forever. And I don't get this notion of Fraser at right wing back - has he ever played there? And he prefers playing on the left anyway. Credible suggestions? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 33 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: Your personal vendetta v Stuart Armstrong is now undermining the many credible suggestions you do have. The guy is a first team regular in a top league but because he once made a mistake he is to be damned forever. And I don't get this notion of Fraser at right wing back - has he ever played there? And he prefers playing on the left anyway. Not saying Armstrong is, more likely Adams. But Is the worst player in a top league team better than the best player at a lower level team. Is Adams better than Dykes? Is Armstrong better than Gauld? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Taylor1996 said: Which ones are the wild cards? Gilmour? McCrorie, Porteous, Gauld, Gilmour and Turnbull. Barely a call up between them never mind actual internatonal experience. For the record, I’d take Gauld, if there’s room once the experienced regulars are in. Or I’d like to see him tried in the friendlies, along with Turnbull. Gilmour needs to play senior football before graduating to international level. I’d take him to carry the hampers as experience. Edited April 26, 2021 by adamntg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted April 26, 2021 Author Share Posted April 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Third Lanark said: Your personal vendetta v Stuart Armstrong is now undermining the many credible suggestions you do have. The guy is a first team regular in a top league but because he once made a mistake he is to be damned forever. And I don't get this notion of Fraser at right wing back - has he ever played there? And he prefers playing on the left anyway. Yes. In Scotland's previous match. He scored. I had hoped that this notion of "He hasn't played there, therefore, he can't play there" had been put to bed when we started playing McTominay at center back, Christie and McGinn as striker, Tierney at centerback, O'Donnell at right wing back, Robertson at left wing back. Most people told me we shouldn't play with a three because "none of our players play that system at club level." We're talking about professional footballers. In a 90 minutes match players cover a lot of positions and cover lots of blades of grass. As for Armstrong. He wouldn't make my first XI. Therefore, he'd be fighting with Gauld and probably Turnbull for a place in the squad. Gauld is better and has been a stand out in the Portugese Primeira Liga. Turnbull has the potential to be a top player. I really don't have to justify my opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted April 26, 2021 Author Share Posted April 26, 2021 38 minutes ago, adamntg said: McCrorie, Porteous, Gauld, Gilmour and Turnbull. Barely a call up between them never mind actual internatonal experience. For the record, I’d take Gauld, if there’s room once the experienced regulars are in. Or I’d like to see him tried in the friendlies, along with Turnbull. Gilmour needs to play senior football before graduating to international level. I’d take him to carry the hampers as experience. McCrorie would be 3rd keeper. Porteous would be 6th choice centre back. Chances are, neither of them would get a sniff. Gauld has been one of the top players in the Portugese top league. He should be in the squad. On technical ability, Gilmour and Turnbull are superior to players like Fleck and McGregor, etc. I wouldn't say that either of my picks are wild cards, though. I'd say that the aforementioned names will be Scotland regulars in the future, barring injuries. Some people are talking about Patterson, Shankland, Rooney, Clark. It's a game of opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 46 minutes ago, Taylor1996 said: McCrorie would be 3rd keeper. Porteous would be 6th choice centre back. Chances are, neither of them would get a sniff. Gauld has been one of the top players in the Portugese top league. He should be in the squad. On technical ability, Gilmour and Turnbull are superior to players like Fleck and McGregor, etc. I wouldn't say that either of my picks are wild cards, though. I'd say that the aforementioned names will be Scotland regulars in the future, barring injuries. Some people are talking about Patterson, Shankland, Rooney, Clark. It's a game of opinions. I would say they were wild cards. That’s my opinion in this game of opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted April 26, 2021 Author Share Posted April 26, 2021 14 minutes ago, adamntg said: I would say they were wild cards. That’s my opinion in this game of opinions. Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Taylor1996 said: Yes. In Scotland's previous match. He scored. I had hoped that this notion of "He hasn't played there, therefore, he can't play there" had been put to bed when we started playing McTominay at center back, Christie and McGinn as striker, Tierney at centerback, O'Donnell at right wing back, Robertson at left wing back. Most people told me we shouldn't play with a three because "none of our players play that system at club level." We're talking about professional footballers. In a 90 minutes match players cover a lot of positions and cover lots of blades of grass. As for Armstrong. He wouldn't make my first XI. Therefore, he'd be fighting with Gauld and probably Turnbull for a place in the squad. Gauld is better and has been a stand out in the Portugese Primeira Liga. Turnbull has the potential to be a top player. I really don't have to justify my opinions. Fraser was really more of a winger than a back in that game, not one in which he could be judged since he didn't have much defending to do.Agree about Turnbull and Gauld but I'd take Armstrong before McGregor, the latter being a defensive liability. If you think Turnbull and Gauld are really better players than Armstrong then ok fine, but I think you're being disingenuous in your dismissal of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 Fraser played wing back in a friendly against Belgium and a few times for Bournemouth. In my view he is unsuited to the role in all but emergency situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: Fraser played wing back in a friendly against Belgium and a few times for Bournemouth. In my view he is unsuited to the role in all but emergency situations. Agreed. Don't think SOD is that bad and we now have Patterson in the wings. Think our problem position is now the one Jack filled - we really don't have a like-for-like replacement there, except maybe McLean and I have some doubts about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted April 26, 2021 Author Share Posted April 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: Fraser was really more of a winger than a back in that game, not one in which he could be judged since he didn't have much defending to do.Agree about Turnbull and Gauld but I'd take Armstrong before McGregor, the latter being a defensive liability. If you think Turnbull and Gauld are really better players than Armstrong then ok fine, but I think you're being disingenuous in your dismissal of him. I have nothing against O'Donnell, in fact, I quite like him, but he only offers qualities going back. Been thinking about who could play RWB, but I'm stumped. Maybe Liam Henderson (he'll probably be playing in Serie A next season). I didn't used to like McGregor but he's grown on me. He's more productive in the final 3rd. There's no doubt that Armstrong is now an established EPL player. But it's not like he's a first pick for us. He'd only get in my squad if we had injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Gks - Marshall, Gordon, Clarke DEF - Patterson, Odonnell, mckenna, Cooper, hendry, Tierney, Robertson, Hanley MID - mctominay, mcgregor, mcginn, Armstrong, Christie, fraser, turnbull. gauld. FOR - Dykes, Adams, Nisbet, Griffiths If its a 25 man squad I'd take considine or gallagher as back up in defence and James forrest to back up the attacking players I'd actually start Patterson, he oozes confidence and we are going to need that in this tournament Gk Marshall Rwb - Patterson Cb hendry, Cooper, Tierney Lwb robertson DMs- mctominay and mcgregor Am - John mcginn For - dykes and Adams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: Gks - Marshall, Gordon, Clarke DEF - Patterson, Odonnell, mckenna, Cooper, hendry, Tierney, Robertson, Hanley MID - mctominay, mcgregor, mcginn, Armstrong, Christie, fraser, turnbull. gauld. FOR - Dykes, Adams, Nisbet, Griffiths If its a 25 man squad I'd take considine or gallagher as back up in defence and James forrest to back up the attacking players I'd actually start Patterson, he oozes confidence and we are going to need that in this tournament Gk Marshall Rwb - Patterson Cb hendry, Cooper, Tierney Lwb robertson DMs- mctominay and mcgregor Am - John mcginn For - dykes and Adams That’s the same squad I’d pick also barring the coin flipper between a few 3rd choice goalies! Agree on Patterson & The inclusion of Gauld & Turnbull. Need to pick some players on form that’s for sure! Can’t be choosing players in June who put a shift in during 2020 but have done little since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 23 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: Gks - Marshall, Gordon, Clarke DEF - Patterson, Odonnell, mckenna, Cooper, hendry, Tierney, Robertson, Hanley MID - mctominay, mcgregor, mcginn, Armstrong, Christie, fraser, turnbull. gauld. FOR - Dykes, Adams, Nisbet, Griffiths If its a 25 man squad I'd take considine or gallagher as back up in defence and James forrest to back up the attacking players I'd actually start Patterson, he oozes confidence and we are going to need that in this tournament Gk Marshall Rwb - Patterson Cb hendry, Cooper, Tierney Lwb robertson DMs- mctominay and mcgregor Am - John mcginn For - dykes and Adams It’s a good squad, but I think Kenny McLean would be in mine. He is dependable. I’m not sure who I’d drop though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: It’s a good squad, but I think Kenny McLean would be in mine. He is dependable. I’m not sure who I’d drop though. I forgot about McLean. I'd have no issue with him being in the team. Norwich have been promoted and he will be high on confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 19 hours ago, Taylor1996 said: As for Armstrong. He wouldn't make my first XI. Therefore, he'd be fighting with Gauld and probably Turnbull for a place in the squad. Gauld is better and has been a stand out in the Portugese Primeira Liga. Gauld isn't better. Out of interest, how many games, full games, have you watched Gauld play in this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 If he's fit, then Forrest should be in the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 UEFA have announced it’s going to be a 26 man squad. Gilmour, Gauld, Turnbull, Patterson must have a good chance now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumnio Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Gordon - Marshall - McLaughlin O’Donnell - Patterson Hendry - McTominay - Hanley - Cooper - McKenna - Gallagher Robertson - Tierney McGregor - McGinn - Armstrong - Gilmour - McLean - Christie - Turnbull - Gauld Fraser - Forrest Adams - Dykes - Griffiths This is what I’d pick, although I think there’s probably only 22 or 23 that will be in Clarkes squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, kumnio said: Gordon - Marshall - McLaughlin O’Donnell - Patterson Hendry - McTominay - Hanley - Cooper - McKenna - Gallagher Robertson - Tierney McGregor - McGinn - Armstrong - Gilmour - McLean - Christie - Turnbull - Gauld Fraser - Forrest Adams - Dykes - Griffiths This is what I’d pick, although I think there’s probably only 22 or 23 that will be in Clarkes squad. I’d agree with this, although Forrest and Griffiths need to prove their fitness by playing 90 minutes a few times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 26 man squad - great news. We just called up 26 but McBurnie and Jack are out so we can use their two spots for Turnbull, Paterson, Gauld or Gilmour. Gilmour probably has the least chance guess he gets more game time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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