Big Ramy 1314 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Burj_Alba said: Gilmour to start for Chelsea against City. Big, big match for him ( even if City have made 9 changes 😬) 👍🏴 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 For sure a big game and if he gets a run if games, he could get the spot that would have went to McLean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, romanticscot said: For sure a big game and if he gets a run if games, he could get the spot that would have went to McLean. If he's good enough to start this match, he has to be picked for the euros. Its not even a debate anymore. We've got a player being trusted to start again one of the best teams in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 36 minutes ago, Burj_Alba said: Nesbit with a nice finish there. Nisbet has been very good and a nice finish. Less impressed with Doig. He’s a good athlete, but not a natural footballer like Patterson is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breeks_mctavish Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Very sorry for McLean. Always thinks he performs well in a Scotland shirt. Gilmour has to come to the squad. While I would have taken him whatever the injury circumstances, Clarke doesn’t need to be worried about being disloyal to the players who got us there. There’s a space now. Trusted in important games for Chelsea twice in the last week. A massive talent and we should be bringing him to the fold immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 19 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: If he's good enough to start this match, he has to be picked for the euros. Its not even a debate anymore. We've got a player being trusted to start again one of the best teams in the world. Chelsea are rotating their squad that's why he starts today but if he gets a few more games AND plays well, better than he did a few days ago then I reckon he will get called up. Turnbull and Gauld have better claims for a spot, though I do understand they are different players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, romanticscot said: Chelsea are rotating their squad that's why he starts today but if he gets a few more games AND plays well, better than he did a few days ago then I reckon he will get called up. Turnbull and Gauld have better claims for a spot, though I do understand they are different players. Turnbull doesn't have a better claim at all. Would turnbull or Gauld be trusted at such a high level, I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, vanderark14 said: Turnbull doesn't have a better claim at all. Would turnbull or Gauld be trusted at such a high level, I doubt it. How many games has Turnbull played all season? That's why he has a better claim for me. Chelsea are not do or die today, they want to win but have to rotate their midfielders which is great for Gilmour as he is getting games at the right time, hopefully he plays well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 1 minute ago, romanticscot said: How many games has Turnbull played all season? That's why he has a better claim for me. Chelsea are not do or die today, they want to win but have to rotate their midfielders which is great for Gilmour as he is getting games at the right time, hopefully he plays well. I just had a look at the EPL table because I don't watch a lot of it. Chelsea haven't secured CL football yet so I disagree, this is a big game. Turnbull has played a lot but playing a lot doesn't overshadow talent and playing at a higher level. It's about time scotland took the gambles on players like gilmour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, vanderark14 said: Turnbull doesn't have a better claim at all. Would turnbull or Gauld be trusted at such a high level, I doubt it. Regarding Turnbull, I think his career will have a similar trajectory to Tierney's. Another season tearing it up in Scottish football, then a big team will come in for him. Then we'll be wondering why he wasn't in the Scotland squad sooner. Gilmour has the potential to be the best of the lot, but I think we have at least 6 or 7 players that could go on to great things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanticscot Posted May 8, 2021 Author Share Posted May 8, 2021 Not disagreeing it's not a big game, I hope he plays well. So far he is being pragmatic and probably executing his instructions well, tidy and efficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Just now, Tartan blood said: Regarding Turnbull, I think his career will have a similar trajectory to Tierney's. Another season tearing it up in Scottish football, then a big team will come in for him. Then we'll be wondering why he wasn't in the Scotland squad sooner. Gilmour has the potential to be the best of the lot, but I think we have at least 6 or 7 players that could go on to great things. I think Turnbull will be a good player, but he wouldn’t get a game for Chelsea at the moment. He’s failed to turn up in any of the Old Firm games and for me he is behind Gilmour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProudScot Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 It’s a huge game and great Gilmour is starting - thats back to back EPL starts for him. Gilmour, Patterson, Gauld & Turnbull will all surely get in the squad Clarke picks before he trims it down & they all also should then get in the 26! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan blood Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 22 minutes ago, er yir macaroon said: I think Turnbull will be a good player, but he wouldn’t get a game for Chelsea at the moment. He’s failed to turn up in any of the Old Firm games and for me he is behind Gilmour. I'm not saying he would. We also probably would have said the same thing about Tierney in his breakout season at Celtic, or Robertson at Dundee Utd. It's impossible to know. If Celtic had even a half decent, on-form, striker this year, Turnbull would have had double the assists. Turnbull played very well in the 2nd last old firm game, and his set piece delivery is always top class. In almost all games he's played, it's his teammates that have let him down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverboy Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 47 minutes ago, breeks_mctavish said: Very sorry for McLean. Always thinks he performs well in a Scotland shirt. Gilmour has to come to the squad. While I would have taken him whatever the injury circumstances, Clarke doesn’t need to be worried about being disloyal to the players who got us there. There’s a space now. Trusted in important games for Chelsea twice in the last week. A massive talent and we should be bringing him to the fold immediately. Hes only in because mount is injured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breeks_mctavish Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, roverboy said: Hes only in because mount is injured Sure he’s a couple of years behind Mount in his development trajectory but we’re not comparing Gilmour to Mount anyway. Unless UEFA have changed the rules and Mount has switched allegiance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor1996 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Who cares why he's in. At this level, you don't make a matchday squad if the manager doesn't trust you. Gilmour gave away a penalty... only for Aquero to miss it comically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loanhead-tartan Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Great finish from nisbet today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverboy Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, breeks_mctavish said: Sure he’s a couple of years behind Mount in his development trajectory but we’re not comparing Gilmour to Mount anyway. Unless UEFA have changed the rules and Mount has switched allegiance? Just saying. No offence meant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, Tartan blood said: I'm not saying he would. We also probably would have said the same thing about Tierney in his breakout season at Celtic, or Robertson at Dundee Utd. It's impossible to know. If Celtic had even a half decent, on-form, striker this year, Turnbull would have had double the assists. Turnbull played very well in the 2nd last old firm game, and his set piece delivery is always top class. In almost all games he's played, it's his teammates that have let him down. I’m not knocking him. He plays with a kind of freedom on the ball that is refreshing to see and has that look of a class player when he’s on it. He’s certainly not like for like with Gilmour. You do need to be a very good player to get on the park for Chelsea at the moment and I think one of our priorities is to have a player that sits in front of the defence, which seems to be his role at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breeks_mctavish Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, roverboy said: Just saying. No offence meant None taken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blantyre_Braveheart Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 45 minutes ago, Tartan blood said: Regarding Turnbull, I think his career will have a similar trajectory to Tierney's. Another season tearing it up in Scottish football, then a big team will come in for him. Then we'll be wondering why he wasn't in the Scotland squad sooner. Gilmour has the potential to be the best of the lot, but I think we have at least 6 or 7 players that could go on to great things. I will be very surprised if he ends up at a top 6-8 side in England. Turnbull has absolutely wonderful technique and good vision but he has no pace and little athleticism. These are key in the modern game down in England and will stop Turnbull from reaching that kind of level. This doesn't mean he won't/is be a good footballer and that he should be going to the EURO's (which he should be). I just doubt he will reach the top end down in England due to his pace and athleticism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 4 hours ago, bigfingers said: Dykes came off injured. Hopefully nothing serious He set up the first too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
er yir macaroon Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, Blantyre_Braveheart said: I will be very surprised if he ends up at a top 6-8 side in England. Turnbull has absolutely wonderful technique and good vision but he has no pace and little athleticism. These are key in the modern game down in England and will stop Turnbull from reaching that kind of level. This doesn't mean he won't/is be a good footballer and that he should be going to the EURO's (which he should be). I just doubt he will reach the top end down in England due to his pace and athleticism. I don’t agree with that. Central midfielders rarely have pace and Turnbull isn’t chronically slow. He’s quite a big lad and gets about fine. He is a bit lazy going backwards and that will need to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breeks_mctavish Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Gilmour really grown into the game in the second half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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