Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted August 29, 2019 Author Share Posted August 29, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, SkyBlueScot said: The Record is reporting, through his Dad, that McBurnie is 'mortified.' https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/oli-mcburnie-mortified-shock-video-19023011 You can't deny the commitment he's shown so far. I'd rather base my judgement on that rather than a video out of context. Find it strange that someone who is mortified, only his dad and manager have spoken to the journals about it and yet he's quite prolific on Twitter, but hasn't even offered a comment/explanation as to what happened Edited August 29, 2019 by Bobby Russell's Lovechild Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0Neils40yarder Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 3 hours ago, bazmidd said: Is the most important factor not just being good.. If everyone had the same attitude as yourself then a player like Andy Robertson would never have made it to where he is now. Imagine Dundee Utd scouting him at Queens Park and saying "Good player that Robertson but look at what division he's playing in, think we'll pass on that one" Completely different... Scotland aren't there to scout prospects, they are there to play the best players available. One of the factors in defining how good a player is by watching them at the highest level possible. If we had called Robbo up while at QP it would've been nuts, just like it's nuts to suggest Shankland is in a similar category to McBurnie, Naismith and Russel because he scores goals against utter dug meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csinclair Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Bobby Russell's Lovechild said: Find it strange that someone who is mortified, only his dad and manager have spoken to the journals about it and yet he's quite prolific on Twitter, but hasn't even offered a comment/explanation as to what happened Most players are advised not to say anything these days, much like Snoddy saying he hated seeing comments about him not being committed to Scotland but couldn't come out and speak against it. Most are just told to ignore it and keep their head down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazmidd Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 9 hours ago, 0Neils40yarder said: Completely different... Scotland aren't there to scout prospects, they are there to play the best players available. One of the factors in defining how good a player is by watching them at the highest level possible. If we had called Robbo up while at QP it would've been nuts, just like it's nuts to suggest Shankland is in a similar category to McBurnie, Naismith and Russel because he scores goals against utter dug meat. Did you not just say yourself Scotland are there to play the best players available?... Surely this regards talent as the most important factor rather than the league a player plays in. That is my point in this hence why I have used Robertson and McGinn as examples. McGinn even more so since he was actually called up for Scotland whilst playing in the Scottish Championship. Now I'm not advocating Shankland being in the squad, but that is not because of the league he plays in, it is because he is not one of the best forwards we have available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 It's a real shame shankland never moved up a level because he really is far too good for the Scottish championship. It's set him back in terms of a Scotland call up because we won't ever consider someone playing at such a low level of football. Hopefully he can get a move to a English championship team in January because he clearly has ability. Amazing that Dundee United came out on top in signing him. Dundee United have basically got themselves a player for free who will likely fire them to promotion and they can sell him for 2m pound at the end of the season. He was probably one of the best free signings any spl club could of made but didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 17 hours ago, BraveheartGordon said: Enjoy your enlightenment. clearly lists hun as a sectarian term. https://nilbymouth.org/history/ That also says Tim is a sectarian term ya zoomer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 17 hours ago, BraveheartGordon said: Well that’s not what you said. you called him a “bitter hun cunt” calling one of our players that is a disgrace. The word is used offensively to describe Rangers supporters with connotations of their religion. Much in the same way a word beginning with F is considered sectarian by the authorities. It's used to describe Rangers fans, fuck all to do with religion. My dad is proddy, I don't call him a Hun cunt, as well, he isn't a hun cunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrniaboc Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Squirrelhumper said: It's used to describe Rangers fans, fuck all to do with religion. My dad is proddy, I don't call him a Hun cunt, as well, he isn't a hun cunt. Lolz. I love that you're on a Scotland supporters forum trying to defend yourself for calling one of our players a "bitter hun cunt" with no real basis for any of that other than he's a Rangers fan, and now you're all butt hurt because you got called out on it. I don't give a fuck what pejoratives people use, but at least try to not use them against our lads if you're an actual fan! He also has talked about how he grew up as a Scotland fan living in England and how he used to wear his Scotland top to school as a kid. Can't have been easy for him. He's a good lad in my book. I'd call him a "crackin' hun cunt". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghtresa Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 This is really simple guys. SC "your called up" OM "see you soon" or "no thanks" He's not contracted to Scotland and doesn't get paid. If he turns up he wants to play and the conversation could mean 100 other things. If he starts refusing call ups, we move on and he's no great loss from what I've seen so far. Not really worth a debate IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 On 8/29/2019 at 3:51 PM, BraveheartGordon said: Well that’s not what you said. you called him a “bitter hun cunt” calling one of our players that is a disgrace. The word is used offensively to describe Rangers supporters with connotations of their religion. Much in the same way a word beginning with F is considered sectarian by the authorities. Hun is not a sectarian term. It was and is used to describe rangers fans regardless of their religion.i can tell you when the term was first used to describe rangers fans if you like and it had absolutely fuck all to do with religion That said, I thought there was no need for humpers comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 On 8/29/2019 at 7:11 PM, Texas Pete said: I’m a Rangers supporter. The comment didn’t antagonise or offend me but the guy that posted it is a bit of a sad act if that’s what he was trying to do. I reckon most rangers fans on here would feel the same as you. I do laugh when certain people go on about rangers not being welcome. There are are plenty of rangers fans on here who seem to get on well with others without acting like a victim. Only arseholes are not welcome, except me I get to stay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanderark14 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 On 8/30/2019 at 10:23 AM, mrniaboc said: Lolz. I love that you're on a Scotland supporters forum trying to defend yourself for calling one of our players a "bitter hun cunt" with no real basis for any of that other than he's a Rangers fan, and now you're all butt hurt because you got called out on it. I don't give a fuck what pejoratives people use, but at least try to not use them against our lads if you're an actual fan! He also has talked about how he grew up as a Scotland fan living in England and how he used to wear his Scotland top to school as a kid. Can't have been easy for him. He's a good lad in my book. I'd call him a "crackin' hun cunt". Good post. Mcburnie can be a hun all he wants, if he slams in the winner against Russia he will be our hun cunt 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccaughey85 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 We should give mcburnie the benefit of the doubt, he's always turned up for squads both senior and youth. It's also not that clear what is being said and in what context it is said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 He's had to apologise to the rest of the squad so it sounds like there was something to it after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 11 minutes ago, aaid said: He's had to apologise to the rest of the squad so it sounds like there was something to it after all. That shows that Clarke is no soft touch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, aaid said: He's had to apologise to the rest of the squad so it sounds like there was something to it after all. There was always something to it, his dad had said something to that effect. I am quite sure that the rest of the squad will see it for what it was, an attempt to break up the tedium of work by having a laugh with a mate. Some juvenile Rangers hating Braveheart fans might see it differently but that is all it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrniaboc Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 14 minutes ago, aaid said: He's had to apologise to the rest of the squad so it sounds like there was something to it after all. The BBC article says he addressed the squad to clear the situation up. Didn't actually say he apologised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 minute ago, ceudmilefailte said: There was always something to it, his dad had said something to that effect. I am quite sure that the rest of the squad will see it for what it was, an attempt to break up the tedium of work by having a laugh with a mate. Some juvenile Rangers hating Braveheart fans might see it differently but that is all it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazmidd Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 minute ago, mrniaboc said: The BBC article says he addressed the squad to clear the situation up. Didn't actually say he apologised. Exactly. Some right big pot stirrers on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaid Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 minute ago, mrniaboc said: The BBC article says he addressed the squad to clear the situation up. Didn't actually say he apologised. it did on Reporting Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 minute ago, ErsatzThistle said: Juvenile= childlike in attitude Rangers hating- Don't want any one Scottish seen on social media in a Rangers top, unless they play for Rangers Braveheart fan- Some one who thinks nationality is still a matter of life or death and shouldn't be joked about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrniaboc Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, aaid said: it did on Reporting Scotland. Interesting. Well if he did really have to apologise then I hope the explanation was that he was just bantering with his team mates. I mean, which on of us hasn't banter Ed about how shite an upcoming Scotland match might be? Especially those of us who work with a lot of English people. Still, stupid of him to do that on video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, ceudmilefailte said: Juvenile= childlike in attitude Rangers hating- Don't want any one Scottish seen on social media in a Rangers top, unless they play for Rangers Braveheart fan- Some one who thinks nationality is still a matter of life or death and shouldn't be joked about. Didn't know that Michael Forsyth posted on the TAMB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Pete Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, mrniaboc said: Interesting. Well if he did really have to apologise then I hope the explanation was that he was just bantering with his team mates. I mean, which on of us hasn't banter Ed about how shite an upcoming Scotland match might be? Especially those of us who work with a lot of English people. Still, stupid of him to do that on video. It’s all a load of bollocks. If he didn’t want to play for Scotland he wouldn’t be in the squad. Simple as that. Nobody is forcing him to play and he’s not getting paid for it so he’s here because he wants to be. Time to move on I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceudmilefailte Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, mrniaboc said: Interesting. Well if he did really have to apologise then I hope the explanation was that he was just bantering with his team mates. I mean, which on of us hasn't banter Ed about how shite an upcoming Scotland match might be? Especially those of us who work with a lot of English people. Still, stupid of him to do that on video. He wasn't exactly playing to the camera. If the SFA saw some CCTV of me at work I would have been chucked out of the supporters club years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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