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I've got tickets for Czech, Croatia and last 16 games. All category 1, none refunded... yet. Anyone seeing a refund next to a category 1 ticket? I'm wondering if they've not drawn this category yet or if there is an advantage to having the expensive tickets. Sorry to those of you who have lost out. The whole thing is heartbreaking.

This may be useful to some on here. Apologies if already common knowledge, I haven't read all 13 pages of this thread. I have tickets for all 4 Hampden matches and contacted the SFA asking for clarity on what to do before the 22nd April deadline to return tickets and whilst they couldn't provide any, they sent me the following: Yes we are aware of members in a position like yourself and are awaiting a response, this was raised in the proposal sent last week as well. As stated in the previous email once we have confirmation of the information we will share with our members. I at least feel reassured that we should get some sort of update before we have to decide whether to return tickets to UEFA or not.

I am totally behind Clarke. Is he the best manager in the world? No. Is he the best we can attract right now? Probably. Does he need more time? Definitely. I have to be honest and say last night really concerned me though. I'm not against 3 at the back, but surely only if Tierney plays. Also, keeping McTominay there for the full 90 minutes and not changing formation when we were being outplayed shows a worrying lack of flexibility. Either he is throwing Israel the world's biggest curveball with our formation and lineup before next month or he appears to lack the ability to impact the match in play by changing tactics. Despite the positivity at the start of my post, both possibilities concern me.

The 3 that started plus Weissman who came off the bench would all comfortably win caps were they Scottish. Not a criticism of Dykes by the way, I just wish we had a bit more quality in attack.

The negativity on here is ridiculous. Am I disappointed that we drew at home to Israel? Yes But talk about an overreaction! That's the only time Clarke has been anywhere close to having his best squad available and half of them aren't at full match fitness. I think we can all agree what went before hasn't been brilliant, so he's tried to change it. Personally I liked the formation. It needs a few tweaks, mainly we need more bodies in the box when we attack, but it has potential to accommodate all our best players. I also thought we should have changed it after the equaliser as we had lost all our momentum, but Clarke obviouslysaw it differently. Let's just remember, Israel have 4 forwards who would walk into our team, so a conscious approach seems sensible. For those saying, aye but we beat them with 4 at the back under McLeish, go back and watch the game. We were fortunate that night in a game that could've gone either way. We are a work in progress and patience is going to be required folks. Even though, we're stuck at home, let's get behind the team.

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I've read he's only training the day before games at the moment due to the swelling in his ankle, which makes injury sound legitimate. Having said that, if liverpool had been playing last Saturday, would he have played? Absolutely yes. I don't think it's that our best players aren't interested, they're just more committed to their clubs. I'd be all for leaving anyone who withdraws for spurious reasons out the next squad to send a message, but it just so happens the next squad is our biggest game for years. Clarke's got a tough decision to make IMO.

People talk about right back, centre back, striker being problem positions, but this is our biggest deficiency IMO. The only way round it I can see is to play 5 at the back with jack in front. A back 4 just leaves us too open down the middle. I'm desperate for Clarke to be successful and believe he should be given more time than previous managers were afforded, but I'm worried his stubbornness on this issue ultimately may be his undoing.

Surely the point is that at no time have we been close to fielding what is regarded as our best team for a variety of reasons. If you can pick your best team consistently, results will improve.

I posted this after the Russia match: "We need continuity. A wee stat for you all. From Russia's starting 11 tonight, the number who have started the previous 6 qualifiers are 7, 9, 8, 9, 10, 8. Same stat for us 4, 3, 6, 4, 6, 5." Admittedly, they haven't had a change of manager, but that would suggest their best players consistently turn up. We can speculate all we want about individual player's motivation on here, but the reality is that many Scottish players (usually playing for English Premiership teams) use the international breaks as recovery time. That's a fact! Clarke needs to prioritise a settled side, above all else. If that means some talented players, who he suspects hearts aren't in it, being left out of important games, then so be it. It's no wonder the lack of enthusiasm from the fans is at an all time low.

It's grim folks, its really grim, but this sack the manager has to stop. How many scotland players would get in the Russia team? 1 What makes us think there's anyone out there, let alone someone who'd take the job that could turn it around? It's madness. We need continuity. A wee stat for you all. From Russia's starting 11 tonight, the number who have started the previous 6 qualifiers are 7, 9, 8, 9, 10, 8. Same stat for us 4, 3, 6, 4, 6, 5. Our main issues are lack of quality in key areas and lack of continuity. Another managerial change will not fix this.

As a killie fan, I have seen first hand what he can do. We need to remember he is only 2 weeks in the job in terms of working with the players. Give him time! In terms of the quality debate, I've been a regular since the 90s and this is the worst team I've seen. The defence is horrific, I wouldn't even give SOD a start for killie the form he's in, but who else is there? Our biggest issue I feel is a lack of defensive midfielders though. Everyone says the midfield is great, but if you play 5 attacking mids there is no balance and you'll get cut open.

That's not correct, they need 8 teams for playoffs A and B. So if at least 17 of the teams from League A and B qualify automatically, teams from C will move up and the first team in line would be Bulgaria.

Looking at the groups after the last few nights, its actually likely we will play Israel at home in the playoffs. Finland look like qualifying and its likely at least one team from League C will get bumped up to the League B playoffs, leaving us at home to Israel. Serbia won't make it now, Norway might but they'll need a result in Sweden tonight which seems a big ask. So nothing's guaranteed yet, but even McLeish beat Israel at home. Then, our the fate of 22 years exiled from major tournaments seems to be on a coin toss. I believe Clarke needs time and will improve us, so by March at home to Serbia/Norway maybe. Away to Serbia/Norway, no chance.

This is really simple guys. SC "your called up" OM "see you soon" or "no thanks" He's not contracted to Scotland and doesn't get paid. If he turns up he wants to play and the conversation could mean 100 other things. If he starts refusing call ups, we move on and he's no great loss from what I've seen so far. Not really worth a debate IMO.