neilly71 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 The Wings petition is a piss take. it is a petition telling Brown to politely f*** off. would be nice to reach 100K signatories on that one before brown manages it on his one. that would surely make the news? Im not talking about the Wings one? I think I may have been getting confused with the petition about a re-vote though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTA Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Im not talking about the Wings one? I think I may have been getting confused with the petition about a re-vote though. ah ok. yeh dont think browns petition has many signed yet - must be the other one that has over 80,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I signed the petition. The Go Fukk Yourself one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParisInAKilt Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Words can't describe how much I despise this man (in a political sense) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoltanBuchan Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 The snp must go all out to destroy the remaining credibility of Westminster and make sure Gordon Brown's reputation lies in tartan tatters. I think it's best to let both Westminster and Gordon Brown do it themselves, they seem to be making a pretty thorough job of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thplinth Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I think it's best to let both Westminster and Gordon Brown do it themselves, they seem to be making a pretty thorough job of it Most definitely. The worst thing the SNP can do now is in any way politically obscure Westminster, Brown, Cameron, et al. Stand back now and let them get on with it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelk Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) I haven't really followed this closely but has Brown given a proper, vaguely challenging interview on the subject yet? The guy seems to be untouchable. Edited October 1, 2014 by thewelk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86glebestreet Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Ah think he's got one eye on other things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Ah think he's got one eye on other things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanday Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 fawning media - they need by-passed - leaflets going through the doors highlighting the cash these guys are accumulating will do the trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I haven't really followed this closely but has Brown given a proper, vaguely challenging interview on the subject yet? The guy seems to be untouchable. yeah, totally unchallenged by anyone in the media on why people should sign a petition to force his own parties leader to honour a vow totally unchallenged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Eagle Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 As ex-Whitfield said "un believable" (although tbh, I prefer unbefuckinlievable") Will the Kingdom's electorate call him on this next May, if not before? Three of Fife's four WM MP's are Labour. Any chance that the support for three (of five) Fife MSP's will prevail and lead Fife to follow the example set by those over the Tay Bridge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 fawning media - they need by-passed - leaflets going through the doors highlighting the cash these guys are accumulating will do the trick. SNP have about 70,000 potential postmen and women! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Paisley Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Much as I like it to happen, I doubt the citizens of Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath will take him to task over all of this. One of the safest Labour seats in the country and ex-mining communities who are too dyed in the wool Labour. Would love to be proven wrong by Fife TAMBers who may be more in the know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Much as I like it to happen, I doubt the citizens of Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath will take him to task over all of this. One of the safest Labour seats in the country and ex-mining communities who are too dyed in the wool Labour. Would love to be proven wrong by Fife TAMBers who may be more in the know? but what's an ex mining community got to do with labour anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Of Paisley Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Bino's - there will be no doubt older generation ex-miners who are too dyed in the wool to vote for anyone but Labour in these areas. Like I said - would be happy to be proved utterly wrong and see Broon booted into touch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sub50 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 but what's an ex mining community got to do with labour anymore Habit and not much else. The end could be swift though when promises are broken and Labour look to be losing in England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bino's Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Habit and not much else. The end could be swift though when promises are broken and Labour look to be losing in England. what promises we don't even know what they are they could pretty much provide anything and say they have kept the vow i more can't understand why any of these folk would vote for something that hasn't represented them since 1997 habit maybe as you say, they are banking on habit, hopefully/surely won't be enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevo Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) As ex-Whitfield said "un believable" (although tbh, I prefer unbefuckinlievable") Will the Kingdom's electorate call him on this next May, if not before? Three of Fife's four WM MP's are Labour. Any chance that the support for three (of five) Fife MSP's will prevail and lead Fife to follow the example set by those over the Tay Bridge? Unlikely. The Holyrood by-election of earlier in the year was an opportunity for the SNP to steal the Cowdenbeath seat, but they didn't. If you can't create an upset at a by-election, my advice would be look elsewhere for your Portillo moment. Edited October 1, 2014 by stevo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sub50 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 what promises we don't even know what they are they could pretty much provide anything and say they have kept the vow i more can't understand why any of these folk would vote for something that hasn't represented them since 1997 habit maybe as you say, they are banking on habit, hopefully/surely won't be enough It will be interesting to see whether the public will accept the line of 'we never actually said that when we made the vow'. We all know that they actually committed to nothing specific at all. Just a timetable. But there is an 'understanding' that most people have as to what was meant by this and it is more than next to nothing. I think you have to go further back than even 1997. 1992 was the last Labour manifesto that was in any socialist. In terms of habit that is a 22 year problem. We need a press that is prepared to stop and question Labour as to why they are going to follow Tory spending pledges and then to tell the public what this means. Don't try to hard to understand, that way madness lies. Educating the populace is the way forward. The referendum has started this, many many people have had their eyes opened and are not shuffling back in the shadows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamia Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 It will be interesting to see whether the public will accept the line of 'we never actually said that when we made the vow'. We all know that they actually committed to nothing specific at all. https://vine.co/v/OZbFJePvrh5 There are loads more examples like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sub50 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 https://vine.co/v/OZbFJePvrh5 There are loads more examples like this. No sound on that clip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHTOWER 1314 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) Much as I like it to happen, I doubt the citizens of Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath will take him to task over all of this. One of the safest Labour seats in the country and ex-mining communities who are too dyed in the wool Labour. Would love to be proven wrong by Fife TAMBers who may be more in the know? One thing i can guarantee is that us fifers will try our best to get brown out when the time comes.He got in bed with the tories who tried to destroy this country and we wont forgive or forget that.Dave torrance who is snp msp from kirkcaldy will be getting plenty support in fact he is a raith fan aswell so will want to sort broon oot at the polls. Edited October 1, 2014 by HIGHTOWER 1314 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewelk Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 One thing i can guarantee is that us fifers will try our best to get brown out when the time comes.He got in bed with the tories who tried to destroy this country and we wont forgive or forget that.Dave torrance who is snp msp from kirkcaldy will be getting plenty support in fact he is a raith fan aswell so will want to sort broon oot at the polls. That would be brilliant to see him fall. Do you know if they're legally obliged to stand on the stage for the declaration of the votes? I think if they're not and the SNP have emerged ahead, Brown would be nowhere to be seen. So we wouldn't get our moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alibi Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I only recently realised that it wasn't even Gordon Brown's own petition. He hijacked someone else's petition, which already had 89,000 signatures on it. Shameless manipulation and opportunism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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