Dave78 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Squirrelhumper said: It was indeed. Half the folk on here would rather have seen Michael Stewarts though. In Ireland most folk watch the game on RTE with Irish commentators, then when England get papped out switch over to the BBC for Ian Wright's tears. Best of both worlds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 21 minutes ago, dan cake said: just wanted all the bores on the one thread, feel free to continue with the pathetic obsession tho Arf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDYER63 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, Squirrelhumper said: With that line up, you have my sympathy! Texas will be good though. Enjoy. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 England must be playing today. They've talked about nothing else so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan cake Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Orraloon said: England must be playing today. we've talked about nothing else so far. fixed it for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted July 7, 2018 Author Share Posted July 7, 2018 21 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: Do you work in England? If not, then 90% of those watching the BBC coverage will be happy with it. Like it or loathe it, we're part of the UK. Ok yeah fair enough thought you were referring to Scotland only. Just trying to make the point that I genuinely don't think it's fair or correct that we get (in footballing terms) another country's feed/production. As I said it could be any countries feed we get and it be no less ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted July 7, 2018 Author Share Posted July 7, 2018 21 hours ago, Squirrelhumper said: It was indeed. Half the folk on here would rather have seen Michael Stewarts though. Aye I like Michael Stewarts punditry. He's part of the TV football output in the country that I live in. It makes total sense that I have the option to watch him as part of a World Cup broadcast from Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted July 7, 2018 Author Share Posted July 7, 2018 17 hours ago, dan cake said: fixed it for you Talked about the broadcasting of the World Cup from another country's point of view with the output geared towards not my country's audience. What do you refer to exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Maybe people should just stop watching British TV then and find another channel or the internet. Does RT do football in English? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toepoke Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 1 hour ago, exile said: Maybe people should just stop watching British TV then and find another channel or the internet. Does RT do football in English? I've been enjoying the coverage here in Canada, if you can get past Steven Caldwell being their expert analyst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Toepoke said: I've been enjoying the coverage here in Canada, if you can get past Steven Caldwell being their expert analyst. Well there you go! People can use their imagination and decide who they'd rather listen to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Just checked out RT but I couldn't see any football coverage. Their take on Russia v Croatia (Russia v England?) would be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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VASCO Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 One of the beauties about having been in Russia for just over a month is that I have missed all this crap with BBC/ITV. I've also been lucky in getting tickets for the other half of the knock-out draw to that which England are still in. Also, I've not heard one English voice in all that time. Wonderful! Nor have I watched any of England's matches. However, with these bastards getting to the last 4, I'm seriously thinking of coming home after the semis. I don't think that I could stomach being in Moscow for the day of the final, as was my original intention, if they were there. On the other hand, if Croatia pump them, they'll be in the third place play-off, for which I've got a ticket. I've always been intensely anti-England, but since the 2014 and 2016 referenda, the seething in me at the mention of the words England or English, has reached ridiculous levels. Despite wearing a Scotland top on the tram on the way back from Friday's game a Brazilian asked me if I was English. My response was not particularly pleasant, with some of the most colourful language that even I have produced being literally spat back at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huddersfield Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 47 minutes ago, VASCO said: One of the beauties about having been in Russia for just over a month is that I have missed all this crap with BBC/ITV. I've also been lucky in getting tickets for the other half of the knock-out draw to that which England are still in. Also, I've not heard one English voice in all that time. Wonderful! Nor have I watched any of England's matches. However, with these bastards getting to the last 4, I'm seriously thinking of coming home after the semis. I don't think that I could stomach being in Moscow for the day of the final, as was my original intention, if they were there. On the other hand, if Croatia pump them, they'll be in the third place play-off, for which I've got a ticket. I've always been intensely anti-England, but since the 2014 and 2016 referenda, the seething in me at the mention of the words England or English, has reached ridiculous levels. Despite wearing a Scotland top on the tram on the way back from Friday's game a Brazilian asked me if I was English. My response was not particularly pleasant, with some of the most colourful language that even I have produced being literally spat back at him. We're not that bad a bunch really you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted July 8, 2018 Author Share Posted July 8, 2018 1 hour ago, VASCO said: One of the beauties about having been in Russia for just over a month is that I have missed all this crap with BBC/ITV. I've also been lucky in getting tickets for the other half of the knock-out draw to that which England are still in. Also, I've not heard one English voice in all that time. Wonderful! Nor have I watched any of England's matches. However, with these bastards getting to the last 4, I'm seriously thinking of coming home after the semis. I don't think that I could stomach being in Moscow for the day of the final, as was my original intention, if they were there. On the other hand, if Croatia pump them, they'll be in the third place play-off, for which I've got a ticket. I've always been intensely anti-England, but since the 2014 and 2016 referenda, the seething in me at the mention of the words England or English, has reached ridiculous levels. Despite wearing a Scotland top on the tram on the way back from Friday's game a Brazilian asked me if I was English. My response was not particularly pleasant, with some of the most colourful language that even I have produced being literally spat back at him. See, this is an example of what someone will comment after years of English broadcasting in Scotland with no Scottish output available. This is unhealthy, unfair and completely wrong and there has to be a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 16 minutes ago, JECK said: See, this is an example of what someone will comment after years of English broadcasting in Scotland with no Scottish output available. This is unhealthy, unfair and completely wrong and there has to be a change. It's also entrenched in language. Some countries popularly use a version of "England" to mean Britain. (Separate words for Scotland and UK may exist but popularly the word for England is used to mean the whole country, e.g. 英国 = Yīngguó = England/Britain). (Just as we often choose to use Holland instead of Netherlands, even though we have both words available). That tradition would not change with devolved broadcasting (but maybe only with Scotland having a separate name on the map...). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASCO Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 The broadcasting thing goes further. I switch on Reporting Scotland and a good number of reporters are now English, the weather person is a FIG and invariably half of those interviewed on the particular topic are FIGs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catchart Circle Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Huddersfield said: We're not that bad a bunch really you know I've always been intensely anti-England, but since the 2014 and 2016 referenda, the seething in me at the mention of the words England or English, has reached ridiculous levels. Despite wearing a Scotland top on the tram on the way back from Friday's game a Brazilian asked me if I was English. My response was not particularly pleasant, with some of the most colourful language that even I have produced being literally spat back at him. We're not that bad a bunch either Huddersfield! Please do not associate all Scots - football fans or otherwise with the above bigoted comments and accept my apologies on behalf of decent Scots who are supposed to be a friendly nation. Many Scots are now openly backing England who previously were afraid to speak out but are now reacting to the bitter anti Englishness which is always portrayed as the Scottish viewpoint. Personally I am neuetral and would have no problem if you won the World Cup - equally I won't be losing any sleep if you don't. Not only does Vasco hate the English he also seems to hate most Scots given the majority voted NO in 2014 (I didn't incidentally). Maybe he should just stay in Moscow after all. Edited July 8, 2018 by Catchart Circle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huddersfield Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 15 minutes ago, Catchart Circle said: I've always been intensely anti-England, but since the 2014 and 2016 referenda, the seething in me at the mention of the words England or English, has reached ridiculous levels. Despite wearing a Scotland top on the tram on the way back from Friday's game a Brazilian asked me if I was English. My response was not particularly pleasant, with some of the most colourful language that even I have produced being literally spat back at him. We're not that bad a bunch either Huddersfield! Please do not associate all Scots - football fans or otherwise with the above bigoted comments and accept my apologies on behalf of decent Scots who are supposed to be a friendly nation. Many Scots are now openly backing England who previously were afraid to speak out but are now reacting to the bitter anti Englishness which is always portrayed as the Scottish viewpoint. Personally I am neuetral and would have no problem if you won the World Cup - equally I won't be losing any sleep if you don't. Not only does Vasco hate the English he also seems to hate most Scots given the majority voted NO in 2014 (I didn't incidentally). Maybe he should just stay in Moscow after all. No need at all to apologise! I’ve travelled a lot around Scotland from Shetland to the Borders & all points in between & honestly can say not once have I ever had a single anti-English comment made to me. And I’m aware enough to know that it’s not always the same this side of the border! I’ve always loved the place & the people & always will. Oh, and the whisky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Saint Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Surely they can broadcast to Scotland on a slight delay so that they can dub the voices of Lineker etc. with Scottish accents and words that better reflect the Scottish perspective. Shearer: "I think we can beat Croatia. We've got the talent to do it." Dubbed Scottish accent: "We're honking and we've got nae chance. All our players are pish and we deserve to lose and go hame." Would be a cost effective solution to a longstanding problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JECK Posted July 8, 2018 Author Share Posted July 8, 2018 4 hours ago, Catchart Circle said: I've always been intensely anti-England, but since the 2014 and 2016 referenda, the seething in me at the mention of the words England or English, has reached ridiculous levels. Despite wearing a Scotland top on the tram on the way back from Friday's game a Brazilian asked me if I was English. My response was not particularly pleasant, with some of the most colourful language that even I have produced being literally spat back at him. We're not that bad a bunch either Huddersfield! Please do not associate all Scots - football fans or otherwise with the above bigoted comments and accept my apologies on behalf of decent Scots who are supposed to be a friendly nation. Many Scots are now openly backing England who previously were afraid to speak out but are now reacting to the bitter anti Englishness which is always portrayed as the Scottish viewpoint. Personally I am neuetral and would have no problem if you won the World Cup - equally I won't be losing any sleep if you don't. Not only does Vasco hate the English he also seems to hate most Scots given the majority voted NO in 2014 (I didn't incidentally). Maybe he should just stay in Moscow after all. Again, someone basically going off topic. You've got to question why folk holds these beliefs. The complete and utter clusterfk that is broadcasting in Scotland is the reason. How ridiculous is it really to live in one country but get the the feed/production from another country. The English would be in uproar if it were the other way round. It's blatant antagonism, arrogance. What is the thought process? The jocks will love watching us to cause we would support them like we did when wales reached the semis of the euros (where they equated it to great night for "British" football). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertsscot Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 1 hour ago, JECK said: Again, someone basically going off topic. You've got to question why folk holds these beliefs. The complete and utter clusterfk that is broadcasting in Scotland is the reason. How ridiculous is it really to live in one country but get the the feed/production from another country. The English would be in uproar if it were the other way round. It's blatant antagonism, arrogance. What is the thought process? The jocks will love watching us to cause we would support them like we did when wales reached the semis of the euros (where they equated it to great night for "British" football). Most folk in England haven't got a clue about what happens with Scottish broadcasting and you're right they wouldn't stand for it. No other nation on earth would stand for it! I've also been in sports shops in Scotland where its easier to get an England top than a Scotland top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 8 hours ago, VASCO said: The broadcasting thing goes further. I switch on Reporting Scotland and a good number of reporters are now English, the weather person is a FIG and invariably half of those interviewed on the particular topic are FIGs. What’s a fig? Don’t say a fruit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Russell's Lovechild Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 3 hours ago, JECK said: Again, someone basically going off topic. You've got to question why folk holds these beliefs. The complete and utter clusterfk that is broadcasting in Scotland is the reason. How ridiculous is it really to live in one country but get the the feed/production from another country. The English would be in uproar if it were the other way round. It's blatant antagonism, arrogance. What is the thought process? The jocks will love watching us to cause we would support them like we did when wales reached the semis of the euros (where they equated it to great night for "British" football). Did Wales have the same level of coverage that England are getting? I can't remember so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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