Orraloon Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 OK that's 5 so far. This could take a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunchy Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I would judge the expertise of any tradesman based on the standard of their work. Where he/she comes from or the colour of their skin would be totally irrelevant. How much they charge would be relevant but not always the most important factor. But then how do you know a non uk electrician has been trained to uk standards and knows the uk regulations. If they were working for a bigger company then I would be more trusting as I would assume the company has checked his qualifications. Was told by a polish workmate about how you could get a top welding coding in 2 months in Poland as you only learn how to do that position and don't learn any others or learn the do's and donts with regards to health and safety. Not really got a problem if someone has learned there trade here as there is a much higher chance that it will be to our hs levels but other places have a far far lower level of hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunchy Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 How many Brits do think make their living overseas? Plenty of welders over in Norway and plenty work in the oil ind overseas. You could even count those in the merchant navy. Plenty of uk folk on higher positions on ships Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindimoo Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 But then how do you know a non uk electrician has been trained to uk standards and knows the uk regulations. If they were working for a bigger company then I would be more trusting as I would assume the company has checked his qualifications. Was told by a polish workmate about how you could get a top welding coding in 2 months in Poland as you only learn how to do that position and don't learn any others or learn the do's and donts with regards to health and safety. Not really got a problem if someone has learned there trade here as there is a much higher chance that it will be to our hs levels but other places have a far far lower level of hsHow do you know that anyone is qualified to do the job they do? Do you serously check your doctor, dentist, hairdresser, pharmacist's qualifications? Does anyone check mine before they come to see me? I think probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunchy Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 How do you know that anyone is qualified to do the job they do? Do you serously check your doctor, dentist, hairdresser, pharmacist's qualifications? Does anyone check mine before they come to see me? I think probably not. Do you think the nhs would employ a doctor without the relevant qualifications? What I was saying that certain company's there is a far higher chance that the tradesman would be qualified to the required level than just jo blogs round the corner that says he is qualified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jockodile Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I work abroad. Passed a points test to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jockodile Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 But admittedly an English speaking country :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 But then how do you know a non uk electrician has been trained to uk standards and knows the uk regulations. If they were working for a bigger company then I would be more trusting as I would assume the company has checked his qualifications. Was told by a polish workmate about how you could get a top welding coding in 2 months in Poland as you only learn how to do that position and don't learn any others or learn the do's and donts with regards to health and safety. Not really got a problem if someone has learned there trade here as there is a much higher chance that it will be to our hs levels but other places have a far far lower level of hs I used to write permits to work for sparkies (and other tradesmen). You can get a very good idea of their competence by going through their method statement with them. If I am dealing with somebody I don't know very well I will check up on them more often to ensure they are following the method statement and permit to work conditions. The foreigners I have had most dealings with are mostly Polish and Lithuanian. Our company never had any safety issues with these contractors. I have never met an Indian sparky so I have no idea if they are as bad as Prince Phillip would like us to think. In my experience, the fact that somebody learnt their trade in this country does not automatically make them better tradesmen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErsatzThistle Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 An African doctor performed a successful operation on my Mum a few years ago. A Spanish vet fixed my cat's leg up a few months ago. A fanatical Fenerbahce supporting Turkish barber cuts my hair. One of the more sociable ticket collectors on my local train is from Afghanistan.Immigrants are fine by me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunchy Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 In my experience, the fact that somebody learnt their trade in this country does not automatically make them better tradesmen. Agree that it isn't automatic but I would say there is a higher chance of them knowing uk wiring regs. Seen some shocking wiring by uk sparks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exile Posted January 15, 2015 Author Share Posted January 15, 2015 Douglas Alexander and David Starkey on tonight, apparently. Will Douglas be preaching the importance of the leaders' debates being fair, open and democratic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie27 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 will chainsaw reform Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flora MaDonald Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Douglas Alexander and David Starkey on tonight, apparently. Will Douglas be preaching the importance of the leaders' debates being fair, open and democratic? A well-known Scotland hater..........and David Starkey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie27 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Gynaecology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Bongo Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 If this was Celebrity Big Brother Starkey would be hauled out ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fringo Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 If this was Celebrity Big Brother Starkey would be hauled out ! He is quite loathsome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac1 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 What's he saying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilser Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 What's he saying? 13 year old boys and girls can seduce adults... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 13 year old boys and girls can seduce adults... Getting his defence in first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilser Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Getting his defence in first? It's certainly a phrase that most adults would view with incredulity... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I hate Starkey with a passion but 1% of his comments are spot on and he hits the areas the elected politicians are scared of. Cannot believe that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariokempes56 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 BBC, utter embarrassment. "white" GB vs Islam. I thought that was a disgrace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scunnered Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 When's Katy Clark on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I hate Starkey with a passion but 1% of his comments are spot on and he hits the areas the elected politicians are scared of. Cannot believe that. I am assuming that you don't mean the 1% that neilser mentioned? Whilst they were on the subject of under age sex, I am guessing that the BBC and Westminster paedo scandals must have got a mention? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orraloon Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 When's Katy Clark on? If she isn't a racist then her chances will be dramatically reduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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